L 483, RR drawing wrong?

[SES]

Hi,
On all the published drawings I have seen of the L 483 there is no wall between the entrance and room 79 and for years I never gave it a second thought until last night. This cannot be so, birds and SAS personnel presumably did not have free acces to the generator. Also on the plan of the L 483 at Grove there is a wall where Rudi Rolf has an opening.
Does anyone have a copy of the original drawing?
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

Hello SES

Sorry no original drawings of the L 483 , but on the original plans of the "sisterbunkers" L 484 and L 486
has no wall just a open passage . There is one postwar drawing from the BRV of the L 483 at Spaarnedam
also with no wall .

Regards Jos

[SES]

Hi Jos,
Yes I know it is also the case with the L 484, but I know, that at least the one on Flg.Hrst. Tirstrup has a standard armour door.
On Flg.Hrst Aalb-West Andres has indicated a door on his drawing p. 228.
bregds
SES

[SES]

Hi,
The problem is the same with the L 489. On the official Danish drawing there is no door, but the picture shows the real life
This is probably a consistent error on the L 483, 484, 486 and 489. The Danish and Dutch drawings are also wrong because the draftman probably used the German drawings.
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

Hello SES

The doors are clear , so that could be a option . I found a other bunker with a
wall a L 484 in Souburg but it's on a post-war drawing so we never know ??

Regards JOs

[dirk Peeters]

does this original plan help you ?

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i can assure you all the bunkers of this type have the door you are searching ... and we have e few of this types measured
Dirk

[SES]

Hi Dirk,
Yes indeed. It confirms my suspicion. The original drawing is missing the door, but all the bunkers I have come across have a door or a wall in the opening into the generator room.
bregds
SES

[moonraker]

hello all,
I lean more to the construction option, the L486 does not auverham of this gate that blocks the engine room.this has little to consequense with cooling and air exchange around the engine.possible that lack of metal ducts thecnique not ask. placing the door does not happen to share the air intake engine.



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[jopaerya]

Hello

The L 483 at Spaarndam has no door http://www.bunkerpictures.nl/pictures/n ... 0b-12.html
http://www.bunkerpictures.nl/pictures/n ... 32/00.html

Regards Jos

[moonraker]

hi jos,
the L 484 "isle of schouen" not door .. see the photo .but we see that the roof is lower. as it can provide a door.



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[jopaerya]

Thanks Etienne

For the picture's , so the door could sometimes but was not standard ??

Regards Jos

[AvB]

L 486 Pfauenauge no door:



Gonna check the L 484 on Ørland.

[wimve]

All enginerooms I have seen drawings of for 3D models have hugh air pipes for fresh unfiltered air.
So If these are not installed at any given time, then the "no door" option for fresh air has my vote .

[SES]

Hi,
One is tempted to conclude that we have two generations of this family of bunkers. Those with the complex air ventilation system and a door/wall in the opening and those without, which just ventilate through the opening.
bregds
SES

[dirk Peeters]

sounds logical SES