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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby moonraker on 14 Jun 2012 20:22

SES wrote:Hi,
One is tempted to conclude that we have two generations of this family of bunkers. Those with the complex air ventilation system and a door/wall in the opening and those without, which just ventilate through the opening.
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby TUS on 14 Jun 2012 23:12

A couple of old shot from the L483 in Esbjerg and Skanderborg without the door!

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby TUS on 14 Jun 2012 23:15

And the L483 from Aalborg West with door!

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby TUS on 14 Jun 2012 23:29

Looking at the L483 from Aalborg West and Grove it seems like the thin wall at Grove was made after the bunker was poured. And at the shots from Aalborg it also looks like the door was installed after the main pouring!
Interesting!

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby SES on 15 Jun 2012 06:39

Hi Tønnes,
Exactly the kind of pictures I was looking for, thanks a lot.
It is notheworthy that the doors at Aalb and Grove hinges in different directions, indicating that one could be a Danish retro-fit.
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby dirk Peeters on 15 Jun 2012 06:44

Yes you are right
the doors installed are installed after the blockhaus was poured (which is far more expensive and also more dificult
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby Danielnn on 06 Jul 2012 16:54

hey

I found this topic, wile i was seaching for an L483 info, tho i have found some, i still have a few quiestens.

First

The bunker i do have plans over, has an extra entring, but no on any knowen plans.

second.

at the periscope hole on this picturs there is come kinda roof, what is that, and is it passeball to go that way donw to the bunker. Image

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby TH on 06 Jul 2012 19:40

Which one of the entrances do you think is the extra one? In the picture I can see the two regular entrances on the left and the Tobruk entrance on the right. Do you mean the opening in the middle? I think that is one of those openings where machinery was brought in and that was supposed to be sealed after everything had been installed inside. You can find these openings on bunkers that housed large equipment (generators, kitchen stoves).
I'm guessing that the small roof is a post war addition.

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby SES on 06 Jul 2012 20:01

Hi,
The posted picture is the L 483 at Grove. The small roof is probably new, but it was also there in 1945. Please see:
http://www.gyges.dk/fliegerhorst_grove4.htm
at the bottom.
I think it covers the exhaust from the generator room. But next time I swing by I'll have a look.
I have attached a drawing of the L 483 at Esbjerg. The entrance to room 80 is surely post war. No entrance defence and no gas-lock.
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby Danielnn on 07 Jul 2012 13:40

Hi all

First thanks ti ses to upload the drawing, i send you,

The extra entring im talking about, is the one over to the left, its there in real life, but all the plans i have fund off L483 looks defrinds. So is this an special build bunker.

We are about to open that L483 in Esbjerg, but we need to find an other way donw, becorres the 2 normal entring is covert.

So im hopeing the "little roof" on the top of the bunker or the TMG nest can provie os with an safe way down.

any on you know if that passeball. ??

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby SES on 07 Jul 2012 14:25

Hi oliver,
It is a possibility if you are slim enough, but you risk ending up at a hatch, which is closed from inside the bunker.
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby Danielnn on 07 Jul 2012 15:19

So if i read the drawing right, the nest goes from the insite and not the outsute, or dose it go both ways.

i mean, if you look at the drawing you put up, the nest is becide an long small hallway.

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby SES on 07 Jul 2012 16:25

Hope the attachments explains it. On the picture note the hatch on the left at floor level.
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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby Danielnn on 07 Jul 2012 16:35

Oh thanks alot amasing work, thats gives us an grate way down.

Il post picturs when i got some from the insite.

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Re: L 483, RR drawing wrong?

Postby Danielnn on 18 Jul 2012 20:44

hey all,

here is a few image from insite the L483 in Esbjerg, they are taken to day, we just reopen the bunker, and as many know there is an extra entring.

well here is the image from that entering, (more and better will come)

http://doc-laptop.dk/Billeder/DSC_0006.JPG
http://doc-laptop.dk/Billeder/DSC_0007.JPG

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