M 272 a bunker with many variations

[dirk Peeters]

I m trying to determine a good plan of a M 272
Not so easy as it looks
They may look al the same but we found many differences between them
I know the gun room can change from the type of the gun
The dimensions varied from 8 m 50 to 10 meter
the other side from 3 meter to 6 meter
one of the largest gun rooms is Castel Vendon StP 230 but the rear of the bunker is here 12 m 50 as indicated on the german plan
But the ones at Ile de ré are 14 m at the rear
These have the largest munitionrooms
So even the complete bunkers varie from all sides to several meters
Can anyone give the correct guns for the following StP please
1 Armee KVA D Ro 417
1 Armee KVA E1 Gi 09
7 Armee KVA H2 StP 48
7 Armee KVA J StP 230
7 Armee KVA J StP 245
15 Armee KVA G StP Trou 05
These are the ones we have good plans of
If any one has detailed plans from the M 272 at danemark ...
Dirk

[SES]

Hi Dirk,
Please also see this thread:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... hilit=M272
bregds
SES

[Jens Andersen]

Hello Dirk

M 272 was only constructed on two sites in Denmark: Lökken-Nord (12,7 cm S.K./34) and Skagen (12 cm h.s.K L/45).

See plan and photos below.

Best regards
Jens

[Jens Andersen]

Hello Dirk

M 272 was only constructed on two sites in Denmark: Lökken-Nord (12,7 cm S.K./34) and Skagen (12 cm h.s.K L/45).

See plan and photos below.

Best regards
Jens

[Jens Andersen]

Hello Dirk

M 272 was only constructed on two sites in Denmark: Lökken-Nord (12,7 cm S.K./34) and Skagen (12 cm h.s.K L/45).

See plan and photos below.

Best regards
Jens

[dirk Peeters]

Thanks you all
It looks the one at Lokken that it apears the same as Bttr Longues ...

[SES]

Hi Dirk,
The four at Skagen are identical.
bregds
SES

[jopaerya]

Hi Dirk

Here the M 272 that I know, maybe there are more, with there guns ,
there are also a lot a different M 272 at the Mittelmeerfront ( Sudwall )
Dirk also it's not allways the gun that makes the difference but also the
lafette and sometimes the gunhouse .

Regards Jos

M.K.B. Skagen 12 cm P.K. L/45 (d)
M.K.B. Lökken-Nord 4 x 12.7 cm S.K.C/34
M.K.B. Heerenduin 4 x 17 cm S.K.L/40
M.K.B. Petrolhafen 3 x 13.8 cm K.M. 24 (f)
M.K.B. Vasouy 3 x 15 cm U. und Tbts.K.L/45
M.K.B. Lonques 4 x 15 cm Tbts.K.C/36
M.K.B. Brommy 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28
M.K.B. Landemer 4 x 15 cm S.K.C/28 in V.P.L.
M.K.B. Pointeau 4 x 10.5 cm S.K.C/32
M.K.B. St Gildas 4 x 10.5 cm S.K.C/32
M.K.B. La Couarde 3 x 15 cm S.K.L/45
M.K.B. La Coubre 4 x 13.8 cm K.M. 10 (f) ??

[dirk Peeters]

OK Jos
I ll continue the research
How great is the gun of La Couarde ?
Do we have e plan of that gun ?

[jopaerya]

Hello Dirk

I think the M 272 at La Couarde had extra large ammorooms ( lack of ammunitionsbunkers )
that why the gunroom is also larger then the standard M 272 in this battery .

Regards Jos