M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland

[wimve]

Here is a first glimp of the M170 Kernwerk on the former island De Beer on/in Hoek van Holland.

If there is somebody who has ventilation plans I would be more then happy to model the pipes too. Is it known if there was a device connected to the three vent niches in the gun room ?

And was there a device for transporting the ammo through the openings/slots in the gun room back wall and could these be shut off in case of a gas attack ?

All those details.... :roll:
And questions about them

[dirk Peeters]

it s a miror build M 170
Very rare
i don t think they are "gastight"
don t think at all no ventilation

[wimve]

it s a miror build M 170
Very rare
i don t think they are "gastight"
don t think at all no ventilation

The backside has 4 air exhausts openings, in sets of two. So my best guess is that there should have been some sort of ventilation.
Is it possible that there was a two way system:
1) extraction of smoke from the gun room > three openings in the backwall.
2) filtered air with overpressure from the other rooms.

Why would you have four (small 100mm pipe, "rosts" 200mm) vent openings ? The gun room itself has one big opening at the front so extraction is the logical option there.

[dirk Peeters]

no idea but never found any fixation for a ventilator ....

[jopaerya]

Hello Wim

This is not a drawing of the M 170 but a other naval gunbunker , here you can see the "Lufter"
in the basement with the openings just behind the breech of the gun and the pipes to the back
of the bunker . Maybe the M 170 used the same technique ??

Drawing = Hans Sakkers

Regards Jos

[wimve]

Thanks again Jos.

Strange plan though. Can you read what it says of the crossed section beneith the gun ?

[der bunkermann]

... der stutzpunkt nach ortliche verhaltnisse.

[Eax-E]

Hello,

I miss a M170, there must be three according to the bauprogramm, who can help me ??

Regards

[dirk Peeters]

i m not at home
maybe mixture M 170 and M 176 ?
let the netherland guys answer this for the moment
Dirk

[Eax-E]

There is obviously a problem of confusion between the M170 and 176 yes, but as none is able to make the difference is this "mess" (170, 176 and 270)...

[jopaerya]

Hello

The M 176 in the middle is a M 170 with a 621

[Eax-E]

Thanks Jos

[dirk Peeters]

i ll have this at my home but because i was not at home
it s not arthur that we can t make the difference between them
Much we have written on them and now we can in Denmark even change the bauprogramm with our knowledge but as i can t go look in my archive everywhere doesn t mean we can t give an explanation right away
Dirk

[jopaerya]

Also the Fl 246 behind the M 162a has no type number on the drawing , Regards Jos

[Eax-E]

Eye of the tiger Jos, thanks.

Dirk, as long as we are not able to recognize a M176 or M170 or M270 without german documents, I consider that we can't make the difference between them. Differences must be rather subtle !