M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
- dirk Peeters
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Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
please translate this properly arthur
it s a german document ... and sorry that i never took the times during my research in Freiburg to write down in which RH nr it s been found
I spent only weeks there and obviously you have notified al this in which RH nr it is been found
sorry that i can t give you that info
it s a german document ... and sorry that i never took the times during my research in Freiburg to write down in which RH nr it s been found
I spent only weeks there and obviously you have notified al this in which RH nr it is been found
sorry that i can t give you that info
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Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
this document is from Fest Pi stab 12 ... so only local i supose
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Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
maybe they are wrong ... but it is M 270 ... and what gives the plan ?????
a bunker with inclining passages .... but why the heck i m i telling all this ... see the pages before here ....
Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
Dirk,
This interresting document must be taken very carefully. It's not top-level Wa Prü Fest document but just remarks made by the Fest. Pi. Stab 12, that does not design regelbauten.
Moreover, at the date when this document has been produced the M270 already existed, meaning that the difference rely probably not or not only on Munitionsdurchreiche. As you saw during your trip in Hansted, Frederikshavn or Lökken the Munitionsduchreiche of M270 also received modifications.
This interresting document must be taken very carefully. It's not top-level Wa Prü Fest document but just remarks made by the Fest. Pi. Stab 12, that does not design regelbauten.
Moreover, at the date when this document has been produced the M270 already existed, meaning that the difference rely probably not or not only on Munitionsdurchreiche. As you saw during your trip in Hansted, Frederikshavn or Lökken the Munitionsduchreiche of M270 also received modifications.
Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
Exactly, espanet = M270 with inclined passages, Hansted = M270 with straight passages, so is not a discriminating factor in my opinion.
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Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
how many errors are in the bauliste Arthur ..... in Lorient .... In St Nazaire .... In Boulogne 105 are in reality 630 ... so are you gonna say a 630 and 105 are equal ? this is written in german documents arthur .......... why aren t there no mistakes in the danish listings (Baufortschrift ) can you be sure of that ?
don t rely on documents only
rely i know it s difficult also on the fieldwork and specialy it is made by our group
every time you start arguing
no problem for me
I left france because of the wars
and i ll go to Denmark for finding the peace that i have found before in France but which is gone
I let France for you...
don t rely on documents only
rely i know it s difficult also on the fieldwork and specialy it is made by our group
every time you start arguing
no problem for me
I left france because of the wars
and i ll go to Denmark for finding the peace that i have found before in France but which is gone
I let France for you...
Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
Yes I can. 12 errors it is unlikely, but the 12 x M270 I quoted are confirmed by an other document. I hold german documents as the base of bunkerarcheology work, the fieldwork comes (just) after.dirk Peeters wrote: why aren t there no mistakes in the danish listings (Baufortschrift ) can you be sure of that ?
..and I prefer not to comment your last sentences...obviously we are not in the same mindset.
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Re: M170 Kernwerk De Beer Hoek van Holland
you win arthur you re the best bunkerman
you have right all are M 170 or M 270 as you say
even my fest pi doc 12 are ridiculous by your documents
i ll stop even with given my plans
They serve to nothing
and you have all the answers
Bye
you have right all are M 170 or M 270 as you say
even my fest pi doc 12 are ridiculous by your documents
i ll stop even with given my plans
They serve to nothing
and you have all the answers
Bye