Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by dirk Peeters » 20 Mar 2013, 19:33

several tobruks remaining in Lombardsijde , Nieuwpoort , Koksijde are 58d
I didn t find any Tobruk in de Panne
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 10 May 2013, 15:03

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Thanks too Guido Mahieu (local historian) I got confirmation on the purpose of this Ringstande-like structure. According to a report from the Service Marc (local resistance) from 28 june 44 and a post-war Belgian Military report this was an emplacement for a searchlight which served for the FlaK-battery which was laying inside the Stp. Von Rundstedt (as shown on the maps posted earlier in this topic).

Noticing the diametre (approx. 80cm) can anyone help to point out which would be the most appropriate searchlight to use here and/or perhaps give more information on the concrete structure/socle itself

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by AvB » 10 May 2013, 17:12

Maybe a handheld light, nothing more.

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 21 Oct 2014, 18:56

Every now and then photos keep popping up on this stronghold...
Here below, my latest additions, given to me by a local person who whishes to remain annonymous, but with his kind permission to share them with you by means of this forum.
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the guardhouse as seen in the background of one of the previously published photos
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this canon appears on several photos, some of which have been already uploaded to this topic... this time shot from another angle... notice the 'landing-vechicle-like' ship in the background, which also pops up on the photo (yet to follow) showing the renault FT-turret
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a very nice view of the subterrain galleries... in the back we see some other constructions amongst which a certain regelbau bunker
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 21 Oct 2014, 19:02

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the renault FT-turret with in the background, again, the 'landing-vechicle-like' boat
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massive piece of concrete which once formed a bunker standing in this stronghold... possibly blown up by the germans upon their retreat, therefore possibly the remains of an ammunition- or gunbunker
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a washed up buoy on the beach of De Panne/Stp von Rundstedt from the nearby French town of Dunkirk... not very bunkerrelated... still a nice photo
some more to scan, to be uploaded asap...

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by der bunkermann » 21 Oct 2014, 19:08

Could the chunk of concrete be of a panzermauer, foundation or belgium bunker? It looks very poor armoured for a ST bunker, but it looks 2 meter thick to me?

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Post by myt1prod » 21 Oct 2014, 19:20

HI Tim

Hard to tell.... but I do know that the seawall has never been demolisched (the largest part is still present, even today)... if I'm not mistaken we can even see part of the seawall just behind the huge piece of concrete...
If so this piece of concrete would have been part of a construction laying in front of the seawall towards the sea...
Of course it's not shure that this piece belonged to a bunker, could be a foundation indeed... but it shure isn't part of an bunker from any other nationality (Belgium) exept the Germans... as there are no sources on other bunkers then German ones ever standing here

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 14:32

Another original 1945 photocollection i'd like to share with you. Original post-war souvenir photocollection box.
All photo's exept one are taken inside the Stp. von Rundstedt... this one other photo, showing the subterrain galleries, has probably been shot at one of the smaller Stp/Wn inbetween Stp. von Rundstedt and Stp. von Schlieffen; possibly shot at 'Emma' (Stp/Wn von Manstein)
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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 14:34

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by dirk Peeters » 18 Dec 2014, 14:36

couldit be a fahrstuhl radar ?

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 14:38

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correction: a second photo not taken at the Stp von Rundstedt is the one showing the anti-tankobstacles behind the masonry tankwall, this one was taken in the citycentre on the seasidepromenade (digue).

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 14:54

some photos I own showing some of the nice drawings/fresco's by the Germans inside the kantinebuilding, which was also used and known as the casino and/or Kino(cinema)bunker, and locally called the Victoriabunker. It was called that way because during the days off the liberation in september 44, a big white V was painted on the wooden stagefloor of the bunker. The 'V'-sign at that time meaning 'victory'/'victoire'/'victoria', and which is the true origin of the nowadays V-sign meaning 'peace' instead of 'victory' (there is no 'V' in peace)
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(edit: smallest photo is from a local history/heritage site but I don't recall which)

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Post by myt1prod » 18 Dec 2014, 15:30

As I thought, the subterrain galleries, lay outside the Stp von Rundstedt in the Stp/Wn Emma/von Manstein (not certain on the name of this Stp/Wn because I have several sources giving different names for this location... and others)
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underground galleries.jpg

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Re: Stp von Rundstedt - AOK 15 KVA A3 (De Panne)

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Post by TH » 18 Dec 2014, 17:02

dirk Peeters wrote:couldit be a fahrstuhl radar ?
Also my first thought, at least the foundation looks similar.

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Post by dirk Peeters » 18 Dec 2014, 17:09

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here a plan of a fahrstuhl ....

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