MG-Panzernest and variations
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krasnaya gorka near moscow, scrapped 15 yrs ago?
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Hi all,
I have spent any time exploring Italian Cold war fortifications (with the help of Italian colleagues). It is hard to explore the line, which has been almost completely destroyed around 2012-13.
It looks like the only original German Panzernests, which survived the massacre at its original locations, are two pieces at "Sbarramento Pinzano" (photos and exact location here)
I think they had received about 200-300 EUR for the Panzernest (1400 kg of steel) minus costs of demolition and transport to the scrapyard. It is simply stupid.
I do not know, if any Panzernests were saved for the museums. One piece has been removed by the private collector to the garden of restaurant at Bergamo. Does anybody knows more?
I think they do not destroyed German OT-Stahlunterstands, covered with concrete, but they have used bulldozers to cover the bunkers after removing the surface steel parts.
Ondrej
I have spent any time exploring Italian Cold war fortifications (with the help of Italian colleagues). It is hard to explore the line, which has been almost completely destroyed around 2012-13.
It looks like the only original German Panzernests, which survived the massacre at its original locations, are two pieces at "Sbarramento Pinzano" (photos and exact location here)
I think they had received about 200-300 EUR for the Panzernest (1400 kg of steel) minus costs of demolition and transport to the scrapyard. It is simply stupid.
I do not know, if any Panzernests were saved for the museums. One piece has been removed by the private collector to the garden of restaurant at Bergamo. Does anybody knows more?
I think they do not destroyed German OT-Stahlunterstands, covered with concrete, but they have used bulldozers to cover the bunkers after removing the surface steel parts.
Ondrej
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A Panzernest in Italy , photo from N.A. at Kew .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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Estonia, Narva area.
From
http://www.rindeleht.ee/foorum/phpBB2/v ... &start=150
and
http://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php?type=2&id=254896 (national archive I guess)
Picture a[1] already seen before.
From
http://www.rindeleht.ee/foorum/phpBB2/v ... &start=150
and
http://www.ra.ee/fotis/index.php?type=2&id=254896 (national archive I guess)
Picture a[1] already seen before.
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From Germandocsinrussia
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That one found in Novodruzhevsk, west of Severodonetsk.
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You want to say that Рanzernest in Kiev - is from Novodruzhesk? It's reliable information? If so, then this line on the Donets River - Maulwurf-Stellungherring wrote:That one found in Novodruzhevsk, west of Severodonetsk.
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Yes, there was a short note with pictures in one Ukrainian site - digging out a Panzernest with identical damage as that one in Kiev. I guess there was even a short movie?
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I will try to ask the Director of the National Museum of Military History of Ukraine history of Panzernest - where he appeared in a museum
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Sorry, but the museum there are no documents for this exhibit. Panzernest many decades lay in the backyard of the museum. It's amazing how he was not sent to the scrap.
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I've searched once again and here it is:
http://firma-tanais.uaprom.net/a77872-n ... olpak.html
It would be great , if you could find out exactly, where Panzernest was located...
http://firma-tanais.uaprom.net/a77872-n ... olpak.html
It would be great , if you could find out exactly, where Panzernest was located...
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Hi,
The main question bothers me - is it known who developed, personally, this design? Does she have an author?
Best regards
Konstantin
The main question bothers me - is it known who developed, personally, this design? Does she have an author?
Best regards
Konstantin