M 162a/636

[jopaerya]

Here a nice combination bunker, with a all rooms of the 636 and the observation post as the M 162a
this bunker was build in the M.K.B. Kernwerk Hoek van Holland . A other combination was build in
M.K.B. Kernwerk IJmuiden but that looks a lot different .

Drawing = Nationaal Archief

Regards Jos

[Eax-E]

Hello Jos,

Thanks.
An other combination must take place in MKB Westchouwen ? (called m162a+636S.K. in bauprogram).

Regards

[jopaerya]

Hello

That document is from 1943 and was a building plan , this one was never build .
The M.K.B. Westerschouwen should receive a M 262.

Regards Jos

[Eax-E]

Re,

Ok, I didn't knew what was the document.
But it's strange to read on it the huge difference of m3 concrette between the M176 in A and the M170 in A
On R. Rolf's book both casemates seems to have the same size

Regards

[jopaerya]

Sorry Arthur

This is a discussion about the M 162a/636 not on M 170 and M 176 .

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

here a querschnitt of the M162a of batterie kaaphoofd (VB Den Helder)

[dirk Peeters]

this bunker looks like a genuine 636 constructed in mirror (like the one at the auderville la roche bttr 7 KVA J)
but only the obs room is changed (but they retained the antennas like in a 636)
but we lack the stairs to go up to the upper part of a M 162a
does anyone knows whet telemeter is used in a 636 for the Heer and what Telemeter is used for the Marine , maybe it is just another marinetype telemeter (rangefinder) and therefore they used a larger obs room ?

[dirk Peeters]

There is at my knowledge only one M 162a which has antennas in the obs room and it s Cr 345 Kerbonn (7 KVA B)
but we see clearly the stairs to go up which is not at the 636 we seen above

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[Nectar]

See: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=90488 for a previous discussion.

[wimve]

It could have looked like this:

I have no idea if the entrance had two or four antenna's. Or if there was a heater of some kind at the "notausgang" part. Although the floor was lower there.

[dirk Peeters]

Wim
only two antennas in the entrance
here a detail (of any) 636

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i ll think your plan is correct about that

[Jihem]

Don't forget the 5th antenna in the ringstand (as far as Cr346 is concerned) :

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Regards

[dirk Peeters]

yep and on the dutch plan there is also an antenna in the tobruk
You have to correct that wim

[wimve]

hmmm, seem to have miss that one...
As well as the niches in some walls. Are these niches that go from bottom to ceiling or niches that are located at a certain height above the floor.
Does somebody know what the purpose was ?

Thanks for the correction.

[dirk Peeters]

the great niche at the entrance (280) is almost from top to bottom the rest i supose some are at certain Heights
maybe for uberdruckventil
i don t know...