Dimensions on the cartridge for the Karl Gerät?

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Dimensions on the cartridge for the Karl Gerät?

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Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 01 Aug 2014, 01:31

Hi

Is there anywhere I can find info on the dimensions of the cartridge for the 54 cm. Gerät 041 L/11,5 and 60 cm. Gerät 040 L/8,44 “Karl Gerät”?

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Post by jopaerya » 03 Aug 2014, 04:47

Hello Dan

On this site there are some drawings http://www.one35th.com/morser/karl_hist.htm

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Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 04 Aug 2014, 20:53

Thanks Jo,s but no one of the cartridge with dimensions on that site.

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Post by LWD » 11 Aug 2014, 18:39

http://ww2front.blogspot.com/2011/06/hi ... ortar.html lists the length of the rounds.
600mm Shells for Geraet 040
schwere Betongranate
•Explosive: 280 kg (*1)
•Length: 2,511 mm
•Weight: 2.17 ton
•Muzzle Velocity: 220 m/sec (charge 4)
The schwere Betongranate shell has a hollow room at the bottom (see the right figure and Fig.1 A) to hold charge (Fig.1 B). The room is closed by the lid (Fig.1 C). When the shell is loaded into the gun barrel, a cartrige (Fig.1 D) is placed and the breech is then shut.

leichte Betongranate
•Explosive: 220 kg (*2)
•Length: 1,991 mm
•Weight: 1.70 ton
•Muzzle Velocity: 283 m/sec (charge 9)
•Maxmum Range: 6640 m
This site has someone who mentions he's willing to answer questions about them: http://www.hpwt.de/2Weltkrieg/Karle.htm
Modeling sites might be worth investigating as well.

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Post by Zünder » 11 Aug 2014, 19:12

54 cm Gerät 041: 540x483 R, but this is the length incl. the metal tube that sticks out above the ring of the actual shellcase.
60 cm Gerät 040: 600x159 R.

Measurements are in mm's.

A US intelligencereport describes the 54 cm case as being 1' 2", with a 3/4" rim.

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Post by Dan Mouritzsen » 11 Aug 2014, 19:15

Thanks Zünder i have been looking for that info for years now. Do you know of any drawings of them?

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Post by Zünder » 11 Aug 2014, 19:17

Dan: there are 2 drawings in Waffen-Revue nr. 109, that's all i got.

I'd love to get my hands on the H.Dv. 481 for these.
Or an actual case... :roll:



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