Stp. Gr. Scheveningen

[AW]

good evening,

I am lookig for Infos about the Regelbau 515neu at HKL Scheveningen.

never found a picture or a hint about the exact place
hope the friendly Dutch Group can help

greetz
Alex

[jopaerya]

Hello Alex

Here a map of the Nationaal Archief with the 515 in the defence line of Clingendaal .

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

Hi Alex,
Maybe you can post a drawing of the observationsbunker with one meter walls? To see if someone recognizes the design.
It's very strange that there are no pictures of the 515neu in the very nice propaganda serie of the bunkers..

By the way interesting map Jos, i seem to have missed this particular one in the N.A. Verteidigungsstab is noted as "abteilungsgefechtsstand".

But also alot errors like the rest of the serie;
I have never found the 642 pakscharte

[jopaerya]

The map is far from 100% correct , there is also a bunker called 116 SK , but most bunkers are correct .

Regards Jos

[AW]

Hello Jos,

thanks for your answere and the part of the nice map... sadly with some Errors (621 is also wrong)
I am searching exact on this part west of the 625 (8714) but on the aerialpicture he is not clearly visible.
There is one builing in the size of an 515neu on the left side... but this is behind a house.
okay a flanking shot field would be possible, but restricted.
the position further back is too small and the 625 would be in the shotin field.
the other I would prefer the Location ... but it is to see only one edge.
funnily enough, the BRV not captured him and as Tim says he is not on the photos of the series!?

greetz
Alex

[jopaerya]

A other source is the "Winterprogramm" from 1943 with a 515 neu planned in Clingendaal ,
you know that dots with type numbers were also placed in the wrong place ???

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

I'm starting to doubt if the 515neu was ever built.
Possibly the observation bunker is a mg bunker. And the 515neu was planned to replace the not bombproof mg bunker?

[jopaerya]

Hi Tim

I don't think so, the 515 neu was a early type that was replaced by the 630 .
But I could be wrong , there are three separate German sources that indicate
that there was a 515 neu but where ??

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

This must be the Prins Mauritzlaan near Zorgvliet , now my question this looks a anti tank walls with two MG bunkers
but it looks there is no road ( all grass ) in the row of Hockers . Could be optical illusion ??

Regards Jos

[der bunkermann]

Hi jos,
There was an official entrance there, closed of with belgian gates.
In 44 this entrance to the stp. Gr. Was permanently closed with hocker.

Gr, Tim.

[jopaerya]

Thanks Tim

[der bunkermann]

No thanks
Here you can still see the old road Jos.

[der bunkermann]

As you know apart from the MG bunkers there were also 2 standige gunbunkers (669) covering the entrance. In the rear you can see the famous catshuis.