Bettungen fur Sockellafette ( Norway)

[Natter]

do you have plans of these SK bettungen?

No, sorry: Unfortunately, sketchbook and measuringtape is not part of my equipment on trips

but do this look a bit like your SK ?

It's been a long time since my visit to Marøy, but judging by the photos it has two entrances in the back, so no.
Herdla: As you can see, the entrance(s) is on the side. I don't remember the layout here either, but this one is easy to access, so I can make a sketch on my next trip. Note that it has been modified post-war for a SKC32: See attached drawing which is borrowed from AndersHJ at the norwegian Kystfort-forum (Harpoon on AHF).

[dirk Peeters]

it would be usefull to make a sketch
Thanks Natter if yu wish to do that
Dirk

[Lars Bertelsen]

Hello
Here is a list from Thorsten Heber ‘s “Der Atlantikwall 1940-45”.
Geschützringstände are mentioned in HKB Maröy-Nord and HKB Gavlen (but for somewhat reason not in HKB Langesund).
Are any information known about Geschützringstände in HKB Reksteren-Nord and HKB Bokn?
lars

[Natter]

Several of those numbers must be wrong for sure..?

[Lars Bertelsen]

Hello Natter
Maybe. I do not know the original sources for this list. If you recognize any errors, please let us know.
The list mentions a finished Geschützringstand in HKB Nevlungshavn. Is any information known about that?
lars

[Natter]

Maybe. I do not know the original sources for this list. If you recognize any errors, please let us know.

Sorry for the short answer, but it was just an immediate response as I read the post on my phone.

I really don't have the full picture, but if I can assume that "scartenstände" = casemates and "ringstände" = 271-type position for main guns, I think the numbers for these are wrong:
Korsnes (0/0)
Varnes Fyr (2/0)
Hisöen (2/0)
Nevlunghavn (2/0 or 1?)

Maröen, Gavlen, Vara, Landehovden and Ny-Hellesund are correct. If "Schartenzug Halden" = Mørvika, that should be correct as well. I'm not sure about the rest without checking, but I reckon someone will confirm/correct me

The list mentions a finished Geschützringstand in HKB Nevlungshavn. Is any information known about that?
lars

There are two casemattes. I'm not sure if this could be a Rs: http://1881.to/Ihnfd4

[Lars Bertelsen]

Thanks Natter.
The Ringstand at Nevlungshavn may be a Bauform 271, with (a part of) the top cover cut away after the war, just like the Ringstand at Gavlen.
Very interesting that not all Geschützringstände for SK-L IV in Norway are Bauformen 271. Now we just miss some drawings of them.
lars

[Natter]

hello Natter
i follow this topic carefully
do you have plans of these SK bettungen ?

Here is a zip-file with some photos and drawings/measurements of the Vf 271 ringstand-variant at Herdla (HKB Gavlen):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/38692668/Herdla.zip

Not so good photos (had to use my phone, as I forgot the camera), but I hope you get the info you need.
As far as I can tell, there are quite minor modifications besides the position of the main doors?


EDIT: I forgot to include one measurement in my drawings: The height (outside) from the top of the door to the top of the roof = 60cm (which I think is the same as on the original drawing?).

[dirk Peeters]

Thanks a lot You did a wonderfull Job
Thanks Natter
Dirk

[Lars Bertelsen]

Great job Natter. I was wondering if the covered entrance corridor is an original German one, but it seems that it is.
lars

[forttravel]

At HKB 16./981 Risenes
Source: https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/HKB_16./981_Risenes

[forttravel]

Note that it has been modified post-war for a SKC32: See attached drawing which is borrowed from AndersHJ at the norwegian Kystfort-forum (Harpoon on AHF).

Is it that one, buth with SKC34?

[forttravel]

Blurry picture from net, seems to be Ringstand?

[Natter]

Note that it has been modified post-war for a SKC32: See attached drawing which is borrowed from AndersHJ at the norwegian Kystfort-forum (Harpoon on AHF).

Is it that one, buth with SKC34?

I don't know where this is, but it's not Herdla.

[Janef]

Note that it has been modified post-war for a SKC32: See attached drawing which is borrowed from AndersHJ at the norwegian Kystfort-forum (Harpoon on AHF).

Is it that one, buth with SKC34?

This is Randöy battery 1951 with new mounted 12,7 cm SKC/34 guns. The emplacement is built by the Norwegians, probably influenced by the German Ringstand. The munition handling was from below, avoiding exposing the munition - but lifting the 28 kg shells above ones head to deliver it to the loading number was quite an exersise. Had my turn at this battery in the spring of 1974 firing live TNT filled shells.

JEF