Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule

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Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule

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Post by jopaerya » 04 Oct 2014, 11:20

Looks to me a training facility with different guns and different emplacements ,
who has any idea where these picture's have been taken ?? photo's = Ebay .

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Post by dirk Peeters » 04 Oct 2014, 18:14

could that be Mimizan ? (Ar 62) ?


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Post by jopaerya » 04 Oct 2014, 19:05

Could be Dirk , but my first thoughts was at the German coast ???

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 04 Oct 2014, 19:22

I have the same feeling like Jos about German coast.
It looks that behind artillery emplacements is rail track for crane. On the middle photo You can see curved see coast line like a bay.

Below other photos looking very similar:
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Post by Bo2 » 05 Oct 2014, 17:29

Bonjour

It is not my zone and really very far and I do not know the aspect of the coast at all but it would not be the monument for Uboot whom one sees on the second photograph on the back ?

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Post by kstdk » 05 Oct 2014, 19:12

Hello

There certainly is something tall "Building" on the coastline in the background of Photo 2. if so it schould be near Kiel / Kieler Bucht near the U-Boot monument?

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Bo2 wrote:Bonjour
It is zone and really very far and I do not know the aspect of the coast at all but it would not be the monument for Uboot whom one sees on the second photograph on the back ?JF
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Post by jopaerya » 05 Oct 2014, 19:53

Hello JF

Sharp sight , the Marine Artillerieschule at Kiel is a very good option :thumbsup:

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Post by ErwinZ » 19 Oct 2014, 12:00

Here's 2 more from ebay. Not sure if it's the same place.

Could also be Borkum. I know the Flak batteries near Emden did all practise shooting over there. And Borkum had a railway track.
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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 19 Oct 2014, 13:28

ErwinZ wrote:Here's 2 more from ebay. Not sure if it's the same place.

Could also be Borkum. I know the Flak batteries near Emden did all practise shooting over there. And Borkum had a railway track.
Those fits Stolpmunde (Ustka). Looks like Luftwaffe school. I know more photos from the same location with typical Luftwaffe guns (88,105) also those on railcars as well. Stolpmunde had 2 floored small houses with Kinotheodolit on tops for observation-last photo look like it was made from top of this house.
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Post by ErwinZ » 22 Oct 2014, 11:53

The last two sets match. :thumbsup:

That leaves us still with the first set in the topic. I don't agree with the consensus that the U-boot monument is visible on the second photo. Instead I suspect it is just a smudge on the photo.

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Post by ErwinZ » 08 Nov 2014, 17:03

Here's what I found so far about Marineflakschulen.

Marineflakschule I

Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm

Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm

Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm

Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 08 Nov 2014, 18:45

ErwinZ wrote:Here's what I found so far about Marineflakschulen.

Marineflakschule I

Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm

Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm

Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm

Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
Great Info Erwin-thanks a lot!

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Nov 2014, 10:49

Marine Flak Schule II - Dax

Flak Horch u. Scheinwerfer Kp – La Teste – Ar 236, 237 and 238
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 2 ( Bord ) – Mimizan-Plage – Ar 62
schw. Flakausbildungs Stelle – Moliets et Maa – Ba 5
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 3 – Hossegor - Ba 11
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 1 – Plage d’Ondres - Ba 17
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 4 – Marbella Bayonne - Ba 40

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P.S. this could be Uckeritz http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=209093

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Post by ErwinZ » 09 Nov 2014, 14:17

I'm a Flak guy but here a complete list of Marineflakschule I

a) 1. (S. Flak-Bord) - Lehrabteilung (4 Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Uckeritz und Swinemünde - Uckeritz
b) 2. S. Flak-Land) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen i.Zemplin, Rügenwalde,Neuendf. - Swinemünde
c) 3. (Leichte Flak) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Misdroy, Nest u auf "Mars" - Misdroy
d) 4. (Flak-Scheinw.) - Lehrabteilung (3Kmp) m. Ausbildungsstellen auf Usedom und Wollin - Neuendorf
e) 5. (Funkmeß) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungstellen in Swinemünde u. Esbjerg/Fanö - Swinemünde
f) 6. (Artl-techn.) - Lehrabteilung (3.Komp) - Wesel/Rhein
g) frei
h) Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm

i) Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm

k) Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm

l) Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm

m) frei
n) Schulbatt. Leichte Flakausbildg. - Misdroy
1 - 4cm Flak
13 - 3,7cm FLak
52 - 2cm Flak
5 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)

o) Schullbatt. Leichte Flakausbildung - Nest/Köslin
3 - 4cm FLak
7 3,7 cm FLak
33 - 2cm FLak
1 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)

p) Schulverband Mar.-Flakschule I
Mostly Artillerieschulbooten in Swinemünde



So Marineflakschule II is leichte Flak in France. But there's also Schule III and IV.

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Post by ErwinZ » 09 Nov 2014, 14:21

Küstenartillerie-Lehrabteilung (der Kdr. d. K.A.L. ist zugl. Artl.-Kdr.Swinemünde)

a) Art.-Versuchkommando Küste (A.V.K. Küste) - Swinemünde
1) Plantagenbatterie 4-21 cm
2) Batterie Henningsen 4 -15 cm
3) Batterie Vineta - 4-15 cm

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