Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Looks to me a training facility with different guns and different emplacements ,
who has any idea where these picture's have been taken ?? photo's = Ebay .
Regards Jos
who has any idea where these picture's have been taken ?? photo's = Ebay .
Regards Jos
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Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
could that be Mimizan ? (Ar 62) ?
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Could be Dirk , but my first thoughts was at the German coast ???
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
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Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
I have the same feeling like Jos about German coast.
It looks that behind artillery emplacements is rail track for crane. On the middle photo You can see curved see coast line like a bay.
Below other photos looking very similar:
It looks that behind artillery emplacements is rail track for crane. On the middle photo You can see curved see coast line like a bay.
Below other photos looking very similar:
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Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Bonjour
It is not my zone and really very far and I do not know the aspect of the coast at all but it would not be the monument for Uboot whom one sees on the second photograph on the back ?
JF
It is not my zone and really very far and I do not know the aspect of the coast at all but it would not be the monument for Uboot whom one sees on the second photograph on the back ?
JF
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Hello
There certainly is something tall "Building" on the coastline in the background of Photo 2. if so it schould be near Kiel / Kieler Bucht near the U-Boot monument?
Could be an option?
Kurt
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There certainly is something tall "Building" on the coastline in the background of Photo 2. if so it schould be near Kiel / Kieler Bucht near the U-Boot monument?
Could be an option?
RegardsBo2 wrote:Bonjour
It is zone and really very far and I do not know the aspect of the coast at all but it would not be the monument for Uboot whom one sees on the second photograph on the back ?JF
Kurt
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Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Hello JF
Sharp sight , the Marine Artillerieschule at Kiel is a very good option
Regards Jos
Sharp sight , the Marine Artillerieschule at Kiel is a very good option
Regards Jos
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Here's 2 more from ebay. Not sure if it's the same place.
Could also be Borkum. I know the Flak batteries near Emden did all practise shooting over there. And Borkum had a railway track.
Could also be Borkum. I know the Flak batteries near Emden did all practise shooting over there. And Borkum had a railway track.
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Those fits Stolpmunde (Ustka). Looks like Luftwaffe school. I know more photos from the same location with typical Luftwaffe guns (88,105) also those on railcars as well. Stolpmunde had 2 floored small houses with Kinotheodolit on tops for observation-last photo look like it was made from top of this house.ErwinZ wrote:Here's 2 more from ebay. Not sure if it's the same place.
Could also be Borkum. I know the Flak batteries near Emden did all practise shooting over there. And Borkum had a railway track.
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
The last two sets match.
That leaves us still with the first set in the topic. I don't agree with the consensus that the U-boot monument is visible on the second photo. Instead I suspect it is just a smudge on the photo.
That leaves us still with the first set in the topic. I don't agree with the consensus that the U-boot monument is visible on the second photo. Instead I suspect it is just a smudge on the photo.
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Here's what I found so far about Marineflakschulen.
Marineflakschule I
Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm
Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
Marineflakschule I
Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm
Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
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Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
Great Info Erwin-thanks a lot!ErwinZ wrote:Here's what I found so far about Marineflakschulen.
Marineflakschule I
Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm
Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm
Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
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Marine Flak Schule II - Dax
Flak Horch u. Scheinwerfer Kp – La Teste – Ar 236, 237 and 238
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 2 ( Bord ) – Mimizan-Plage – Ar 62
schw. Flakausbildungs Stelle – Moliets et Maa – Ba 5
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 3 – Hossegor - Ba 11
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 1 – Plage d’Ondres - Ba 17
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 4 – Marbella Bayonne - Ba 40
Regards Jos
P.S. this could be Uckeritz http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=209093
Flak Horch u. Scheinwerfer Kp – La Teste – Ar 236, 237 and 238
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 2 ( Bord ) – Mimizan-Plage – Ar 62
schw. Flakausbildungs Stelle – Moliets et Maa – Ba 5
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 3 – Hossegor - Ba 11
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 1 – Plage d’Ondres - Ba 17
le. Flakausbildungs Stelle 4 – Marbella Bayonne - Ba 40
Regards Jos
P.S. this could be Uckeritz http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=209093
Re: Marine Artillerieschule or Marine Flakschule
I'm a Flak guy but here a complete list of Marineflakschule I
a) 1. (S. Flak-Bord) - Lehrabteilung (4 Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Uckeritz und Swinemünde - Uckeritz
b) 2. S. Flak-Land) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen i.Zemplin, Rügenwalde,Neuendf. - Swinemünde
c) 3. (Leichte Flak) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Misdroy, Nest u auf "Mars" - Misdroy
d) 4. (Flak-Scheinw.) - Lehrabteilung (3Kmp) m. Ausbildungsstellen auf Usedom und Wollin - Neuendorf
e) 5. (Funkmeß) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungstellen in Swinemünde u. Esbjerg/Fanö - Swinemünde
f) 6. (Artl-techn.) - Lehrabteilung (3.Komp) - Wesel/Rhein
g) frei
h) Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm
i) Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm
k) Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm
l) Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
m) frei
n) Schulbatt. Leichte Flakausbildg. - Misdroy
1 - 4cm Flak
13 - 3,7cm FLak
52 - 2cm Flak
5 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)
o) Schullbatt. Leichte Flakausbildung - Nest/Köslin
3 - 4cm FLak
7 3,7 cm FLak
33 - 2cm FLak
1 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)
p) Schulverband Mar.-Flakschule I
Mostly Artillerieschulbooten in Swinemünde
So Marineflakschule II is leichte Flak in France. But there's also Schule III and IV.
a) 1. (S. Flak-Bord) - Lehrabteilung (4 Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Uckeritz und Swinemünde - Uckeritz
b) 2. S. Flak-Land) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen i.Zemplin, Rügenwalde,Neuendf. - Swinemünde
c) 3. (Leichte Flak) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungsstellen in Misdroy, Nest u auf "Mars" - Misdroy
d) 4. (Flak-Scheinw.) - Lehrabteilung (3Kmp) m. Ausbildungsstellen auf Usedom und Wollin - Neuendorf
e) 5. (Funkmeß) - Lehrabteilung (5Komp) m. Ausbildungstellen in Swinemünde u. Esbjerg/Fanö - Swinemünde
f) 6. (Artl-techn.) - Lehrabteilung (3.Komp) - Wesel/Rhein
g) frei
h) Schulbatterie - Zempin
5 - 10,5cm
3 - 8,8cm
i) Schulbatterie II West - Swinemünde
3 - 10,5 cm
2 - 8,8cm
k) Schulbatterie - Uckeritz
9 - 10,5cm (8 in Doppellafette)
3 - 8,8cm (2 in Doppellafette)
1 - 7,5cm
l) Schulbatterie Schwerin - Rügenwalde
2 - 10,5cm
2 - 8,8cm
m) frei
n) Schulbatt. Leichte Flakausbildg. - Misdroy
1 - 4cm Flak
13 - 3,7cm FLak
52 - 2cm Flak
5 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)
o) Schullbatt. Leichte Flakausbildung - Nest/Köslin
3 - 4cm FLak
7 3,7 cm FLak
33 - 2cm FLak
1 - 15mm Fla. M.G. 39(t)
p) Schulverband Mar.-Flakschule I
Mostly Artillerieschulbooten in Swinemünde
So Marineflakschule II is leichte Flak in France. But there's also Schule III and IV.
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Küstenartillerie-Lehrabteilung (der Kdr. d. K.A.L. ist zugl. Artl.-Kdr.Swinemünde)
a) Art.-Versuchkommando Küste (A.V.K. Küste) - Swinemünde
1) Plantagenbatterie 4-21 cm
2) Batterie Henningsen 4 -15 cm
3) Batterie Vineta - 4-15 cm
a) Art.-Versuchkommando Küste (A.V.K. Küste) - Swinemünde
1) Plantagenbatterie 4-21 cm
2) Batterie Henningsen 4 -15 cm
3) Batterie Vineta - 4-15 cm