Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by moonraker » 29 Jan 2015, 08:48

myt1prod wrote:So photo1 at the beginning of this topic should then be the 677? It shure isn't the 612 as the photo by jos with villa Orban in the background proofs and which is lefton the above arial.
If you mean that the leitstand in photo 3 at the beginning of this topic is the leitstand of the hkb Duinhoek which we can see just underneath the 677 on your latest aerial you've posted... to me this is impossible, as the leitstand had a rounded nose, not angled. (or is it the leitstand of the OB's in the actual Stp von Rundstedt, as this is more the PONY-part of von Rundstedt?)
hi jean
I made a picture parsing error small early topic.we just noticed bunker equip grube in front little built on 677.but two indication,the height and the right of the bunker.(inside) visible on this image.
1/too high for 680
2/the form on the right does not corespond to 680.this place 680 is flat wall.
certainly 677.

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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by TH » 29 Jan 2015, 12:45

moonraker wrote:1/too high for 680
2/the form on the right does not corespond to 680.this place 680 is flat wall.
certainly 677.
I agree that the room looks higher, but I don't think the embrasure is a reliable type indicator.
For example, this is a regular 680 (probably used for small caliber Pak).
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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by moonraker » 29 Jan 2015, 14:47

hello th
you are right,but your photo 680 restricted opening.the corner of the wall is not standard.

please see your picture and 680 standard. much better to have more basic

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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by TH » 29 Jan 2015, 19:30

Yes we agree. ;)
I just wanted to point out that the embrasures of the 677 and 680 could be adapted to different guns, so there is a bit of variance.

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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by myt1prod » 29 Jan 2015, 19:51

Thanks TH and Moonraker...
At his moment I wasn't busy yet with the exact bunkertype, at first I wanted to be shure about the exact location of the bunker at discussion (677 or 680 or else)... but I follow your discussion with interest; I also would like to know the definitive conclusion on it's bunkertype. As Pierrot pointed out there is some discussion on the subject. As I don't have measurements of my own of both bunkertypes at discussion I'm not much of help for now.
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various bunkers De Panne

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Post by myt1prod » 28 Feb 2015, 22:06

A new photo i've found in an article called "bunkers off de panne"...
Although similar, for me this one doesn't compare to the previous 2 gunbunkers we discussed and which where built at Stp von Rundsteds (PONY), De Panne.

Which type could this be? And can anyone help pin-pointing it's location? Gunbunker of Stp Wrangel (east of De Panne)?
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Possibly the above photo wasn't even taken at De Panne but somewhere else along the Belgian coastline or elsewhere...
Because another photo from this same article "bunkers off de panne" doesn't look like De Panne at all to me; as I don't recognise the building behind the wall and as the wall doesn't seem to fit the still remaining and known parts of the anti-tankwall at De Panne. Maybe someone of you recoginizes this wall?
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Pierrot; if you are reading along...
I guess I have to admit you where right on your location of the leitstand-photo posted earlier in this topic... as you said it is effectively the leitstand of the former hkb Duinhoek which was built in the PONY-part of the Stp. von Rundstedt.
Yet i find it strange that the tunnelentrance - which normally shows quite clearly on aerials - isn't to be seen on any aerial I have. But a photo from my own collection proves all off Pierrot's claims... even the angled noseform.
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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by jopaerya » 01 Mar 2015, 10:41

Great , a other unknown gun bunker on the Belgium coast , Jean

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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by moonraker » 01 Mar 2015, 13:45

hello jean

Lighten the picture so you can see this. therefore 680 :wink:
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Re: Bunkers near Knokke ??

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Post by myt1prod » 01 Mar 2015, 20:02

thanks moonraker.....
now we only need to pinpoint it's location
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