E-Battr.658 with 15 cm K(E) in 1939?

[Manuferey]

I have come across a E-Battr. 658 armed with 15 cm K(E) and with Feldpostnummer 28805. It seems to have existed very briefly (until January 1st 1940) and maybe only on paper. It would have been a sister battery to E.655.

28805
(Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) Eisenbahn-Batterie 15-cm-Kanone (E) 658, u. gestrichen
(2.1.1940-27.4.1940) 2. Funk-Kompanie Infanterie-Divisions-Nachrichten-Abteilung 299
(28.4.1940-14.9.1940) 2. Kompanie Infanterie-Divisions-Nachrichten-Abteilung 299
(6.4.1944-9.11.1944) 3.10.1944 2. Kompanie Nachrichten-Abteilung 299
(6.4.1944-9.11.1944) 31.10.1944 2. Kompanie Infanterie-Divisions-Nachrichten-Abteilung 299.

E.655's Feldpostnummer was 27472, so it does not seem to be a typo.

E.655 indeed was armed with only 2 x 15 cm K(E) in 1940. However, according to Guy François in « Eisenbahnartillerie » , four 15 cm K(E) were produced in 1938. So, an E.658 with 2 x 15 cm K(E) was possible at least on paper.

This seems similar to MKB Iltis planned in 1939 as a sister naval railway battery to MKB Gneisenau. See here ;
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1#p1893991

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

Hello Emmanuel

Eisenbahn-Battery 658 was planed at "Mobplan" but never exist. Only 2 x 15 cm K. (E) were ready in 1939 and so 658 wasent created. So maybe personnel was provided but not required
Feldpostübersicht was prepared and could not act to changes.

Uwe

[Manuferey]

Thank you very much, uwe !

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

Hello Emmanuel

one more E-Battery that wasen't created

Eisenbahn-Batterie 723

Feldpostnummer – 12 965
(Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) Eisenbahn-Batterie 723 - (2.1.1940-27.4.1940) gestrichen

planed: – 2x 24cm Theodor Bruno-Kanone (E)

[Manuferey]

Thank you, uwe.

What about E.675 in 1942?

35637
(2.1.1940-27.4.1940) Ort-Kommandantur Hoeischweiler
(1.10.1940-27.2.1941) gestrichen
(1.3.1942-7.9.1942) Batterie (E) 675, u. gestrichen
(12.3.1943-7.9.1943) 14. Kompanie SS-Grenadier-Regiment 1 (Division 11),
dann 14. Kompanie SS-Grenadier-Regiment Danmark (Division 11)
(8.9.1943-22.4.1944) 1.3.1944 14. Kompanie Panzergrenadier-Regiment 24 (11. SS-Division).

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

Hello Emmanuel

E-Batterie 675 exist, just a few days only

20.3.1942 – creation order from Befehl B.d.E. - 2 x 20,3 cm Kanone (E) -
17.4.1942 – order B.d.E. – creation E 675 is canceled – battery is to remove - 2 x 20,3 cm Kanonen (E) are to supply to Eisenbahn-Batterie 687 to Ob. WEst

Uwe

[Manuferey]

Thank you very much, uwe !

The Germans mounted 8 barrels of 20.3 cm guns on railway carriages. So they first created 4 batteries of 2 guns each:E.532, E.675, E.685 and E.687. But they dissolved E.675 and E.532 ended up with 4 x 20,3 cm K(E) while E.685 and E.687 remained with 2 guns.

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

Hello Emmanuel

no - E 532 ended up with 2 x 20,3 cm K. (E) and renamed end of 1943 into Heeres-Küsten-Battery 1272 and
E 685 ended up with 2 x 20,3 cm K. (E) and renamed renamed end of 1943 into 3./Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie-Abteilung 1262

so we have end of 1943 - 3 units with 20,3 cm K. (E)

Uwe

[jopaerya]

Hi Uwe

I don't agree with you, the E 532 was first with two 20.3 cm S.K.C/34 but later with 4 x 20.3 cm
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=93231

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

The Kriegsgliederung des Feldheeres of August 1942 show 4 guns for E.532 and 2 each for E.685 & E.687:




HKB 1272 still had the 4 guns. The mystery is where two of these guns were eventually installed. See post from Jos of 26 Dec 2011 here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p1659088



Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

i'm sorry, you are absolutely right! E 532 = HKB 1272 = 4 guns

Uwe