ID Raketenwerfer

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Post by dirk Peeters » 27 Nov 2015, 14:39

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any one knows more?
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Raketenwerfer 43 pupchen ?

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 27 Nov 2015, 15:37

Yes.
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Post by dirk Peeters » 27 Nov 2015, 15:41

Thanks
is there more info about it?
looks so small

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Post by jpz4 » 27 Nov 2015, 17:20

dirk Peeters wrote:Thanks
is there more info about it?
looks so small
Do an online search. Plenty of basic information available, although little on its actual use.
It fired a round similar (not identical) to that of the 'Panzerschreck'/''Ofenrohr' but had a larger range (not recoilless). AFAIK production was halted in early 1944 since its performance did not outweigh its problems.
Contrary to other weapons the Puppchen was not a 'Panzernahkampfwaffen' but apparently considered to be more or less an antitank gun.

It shows up quite irregularly with certain units but is rarely listed on Kriegsgliederungen. After production was halted, it was intended to use these weapons in fixed defenses. This makes sense since in fixed positions their weight was no real problem and did not require means of transportation.
d) Erfahrungen und Folgerungen mit Bezug auf Fertigung:

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Das Puppchen wird infolge seines im Verhältnis zur Leistung viel zu hohen Gewichts sowie der Notwendigkeit eines Zugmittels und einer viel zu starken Bedienungsmannschaft abgelehnt.

Die vorhandenen Geräte werden an festen Fronten aufgebraucht.

W e i t e r f e r t i g u n g oder Wiederanlaufen der Fertigung wird nach wie vor a b g e l e h n t.
(Mitteilungen Nr. 5 vom 15.6.1944)

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Post by dirk Peeters » 27 Nov 2015, 17:25

Thanks for your help
this one on the pictures was found in Cherbourg
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Post by jpz4 » 27 Nov 2015, 18:22

It is clear guns were displayed in Cherbourg, but this does not nescessarily mean it was found there. So far I've not found solid evidence any of these were present. 7. Armee was supposed to have at least 130 before the invasion however, 115 were intended for LXXXIV. AK. the rest for II.Fs.K. Unfortunately it is not clear if those guns were actually delivered to 7. Armee...... It does seem some units had received some by mid or late June and others by mid July.

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Post by dirk Peeters » 27 Nov 2015, 22:56

Thanks Jos

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Post by Manuferey » 27 Nov 2015, 23:46

A Puppchen is visible on the right of the US Signal Corps picture of a collection point in Normandy:

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Post by kstdk » 28 Nov 2015, 01:06

Hello

If I remember well - this is Isigny, right?

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Post by Manuferey » 28 Nov 2015, 16:36

Yes, this is given as Isigny. But with several collection points in the same general area, it is difficult to be 100% sure. :?

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