German coastal artillery in Denmark

[kstdk]

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Material assembled for demolition. Almost everything were destroyed.
Thats what happend with the guns and other material in Denmark in 1945
and thats why there is next to nothing left.

Regards
Kurt
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Ammunition and smokegrenades is burnt.

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German Gun destroyed.

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[kstdk]

Hello all

Is that topic "dead" ???

Any others - please comment - on what happend in your respective countries after the war ??

Who cleaned up, and how was it done ???

Any idea what happend to the German "leftovers", were they used or destroyed ??

Regards
Kurt
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[RdG]

Hello,

I live in the area that was called Stutzpunktgruppe Scheveningen from 1940-1945. After the war a lot of fortifications were destroyed. Nowadays groups of unofficial researchers explore the bunkers that were burried under tons of sands (and bricked up).
The Dutch cleaned up the bunkers in this area very thoroughly for almost no original 'gegenstande' can be found in the bunkers overhere.
The records say that 2000 people worked in the dunes for a couple of months to clean up and burry the bunkers.
Only little personal items and a hand full of shels are the things that can be found here. In other parts of the AW in Holland the cleaners were far more sloppy and a lot of original 'Gegenstande' have been found there.

All pictures HBP http://www.haagsebunkerploeg.nl

[RdG]

As you can see some nice bunkerart can still be found in bunkers that have been bricked up ever since the war. All equipment was taken to the scrapyard and all wooden parts like cabinets or beds were burned directly outside the bunker . All weapons and vehicles were gathered on a field near the centre of town. This was done by the Canadians and Dutch authorities.

regards,

Robin

[RdG]

On the last photo there is al lttle roadsign/stone next to the armoured vehicle. It says 'Oslo'. The background might be fjords? Any idea what kind of vehicle this is? Maybe just an experimental artistic expression

[RdG]

This year new AW museum will be realised in Scheveningen . We are working very hard to collect original fitting to referbish some bunkers. One of our nicest bunkers is the S 414 Leitstand. Unfortunately we can not use the rest of the in tact battery MKB Scheveningen Nord for there is a protected bat that lives in only 10 % of the bunkers and tunnels.
So we are forced to use some other bunkers on other locations as well.

[Valtoro]

Hello!
HKB 1/980 Langesund had a 7,5cm Gun, but I don't know if it was PAK gun though..
From an intelligence report (which I believe I sent a copy to you Erik ):

"LANGESUNDSODDEN (Tangodden) 59° 09’ 30” N. 09° 45’ 30” E. Coastal defense battery compromising four 10.5 cm. Guns, one 7.5 cm. Gun, W/T. station and one search-light about 50cm. Diameter. Hutments and numerous M/G. positions. Area is surrounded by barbed wire.
9A-137533 Grade B.2. October 1944."

regards,
Valtoro.



ErikE wrote:
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Several navy batteries are listed with 7,5cm Pak. Strange weapon for a coastal artillery battery, or is there something I miss here???
How were these guns placed?? Photos??

[David Lehmann]

Hello,

Perhaps 7.5cm Pak97/38 like this one in Norway (75mm Mle1897(f) on Pak38 carriage) ?

David

[jopaerya]

Hello

There were also 7,5 pak used as a coast batterie , they were equipt with 4 guns.
The guns 7,5cm pak M was used in Marine Batteries in Denmark and Germany,
it was gun original it to be fit on a boats but end 1944 and begin 1945 they used
it for naval coast battereies .
I have seen fotos of the guns in a Danisch book , but I lost the book , I thougt is was a
book from Jens .

Jos

[kstdk]

Hello Jos

That info is quite correct:

There were also 7,5 pak used as a coast batterie , they were equipt with 4 guns.
The guns 7,5cm pak M was used in Marine Batteries in Denmark and Germany, it was gun original it to
be fit on a boats but end 1944 and begin 1945 they used it for naval coast battereies .
I have seen fotos of the guns in a Danisch book , but I lost the book , I thougt is was a
book from Jens .Jos

The book is probably "Kystartilleri i Danmark 1940 - 45" which Jens Andersen was co-writer on !!

This picture is from that book:

7,5 cm PaK 40 - MPL 39/43
Marine type of the regular army standard antitankgun 7,5 cm PaK 40 mounted in a affutage for ships.
Used as rmament on smaller vessels, but from 1944 also used as coastalartillery. The guns were mounted on open emplacements and fitted with armoured schields.
Late summer 1944 the Marine was issued with 15 batteries of 4 guns each, and they were stationed in the inner waters along the coast of Denmark. One battery was situated at Rømø - MKB Sønderby.

The picture is from MKB Salgårdshøj on the north coast of Seeland.

Regards
Kurt.
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[Erik E]

HKB 1/980 Langesund had a 7,5cm Gun, but I don't know if it was PAK gun though..
From an intelligence report (which I believe I sent a copy to you Erik)

7,5cm Pak seems to have been very unusual in coastal batteries in Norway. There are a few more found in the strongpoints around harbours and important road junctions, but all in all the smaller PAK from 3,7 to 50 cm are much more common. As for antitank guns in coastal batteries, the 5cm KwK is definately the most common up here.
In coastal batteries, these "medium guns" are often called Landesabwehrgeschütz "LAG") which is pretty hard to translate . Anyway, these guns are usually old light fieldartillery, or even guns which were taken from captured ships etc.

Erik E

[Valtoro]

I forgot the the three Flak guns from P/S Harald Haarfagre and Tordenskiold that was also mounted on HKB Langesund. One of those *could* have been misidentified by the local resistance as 7,5 PAK perhaps..Got me thinking about it when I remembered the 5cm KwK position you showed me at Tangen..!

/Valtoro.

7,5cm Pak seems to have been very unusual in coastal batteries in Norway. There are a few more found in the strongpoints around harbours and important road junctions, but all in all the smaller PAK from 3,7 to 50 cm are much more common. As for antitank guns in coastal batteries, the 5cm KwK is definately the most common up here.
In coastal batteries, these "medium guns" are often called Landesabwehrgeschütz "LAG") which is pretty hard to translate . Anyway, these guns are usually old light fieldartillery, or even guns which were taken from captured ships etc.

Erik E