Berlin flak towers

[forttravel]

Aerial view of Flakturm I — Berliner Zoo.

[Carl Schwamberger]

It does a little. Still, if someone has any info of the things actual AP capability or having info of one being used agaisnt T-34 tank ect: id be glad to hear it.

Given the mass of 12,8 cm projectiles the kinetic energy is liable to take the turret off if it penetrates or not.

[Grzesio]

12,8 cm Flak 40 could penetrate with its 12,8 cm PzGr. Flak (APC type) 201 mm of armour at 100 m range, 132 mm @ 1500 m and still 120 mm @ 2000 m.
The only problem was, the 12,8 cm Flakzwilling 40 could not be effectively used against tanks, as the gun had no provision for an optical sight and could be used for indirect fire only. What's more, the 12,8 cm Flakzwilling lowest elevation was 0 deg,, so the guns placed on the Flaktuerme could not engage ground targets at distances appropriate for anti tank combat.

[ErwinZ]

Could it be try-out for this planned external ornament ?

Regards Jos

I always wondered what the original German plans were for these massive buildings. Though I suspected something like this, I never saw the plans. From an architectural point of view this looks so much better than what they are now.

[forttravel]

Link to Russian documents about flak towers (Wien):
http://wwii.germandocsinrussia.org/de/n ... rid/zoom/1

[Phaing]

I look at the enormous amount of effort, explosives and noise that must have gone into destroying bomb-proof buildings like that... and its seems like an even bigger waste than building them was.

Why didn't they just leave them, or use them as a foundation for something bigger and better?

[jopaerya]

Photo's from the Berlin flak towers according to the Ebay photo-caption , please
note the steel shutters to close the ammo nisches in the concrete emplacement .

Regards Jos

[forttravel]

Delivery of armoured ammo depot.

[dirk Peeters]

Wauw looks like a Kaelbe truck

[dirk Peeters]

some other pictures from the ammo transport

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any one has a Pz nr ?

[patrick fleuridas]

Hi,

And now go to the top !
Dirk I don't found in Panzer atlas. Special oreder ? It's only for tower flak !
Patrick

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[dirk Peeters]

me neither have found anything
has each flakturm these huge doors ?

[patrick fleuridas]

Hi,

It's only on "G" turm and bauart 1. Look pictures.
In Hamburg too, but not in Wienn.
Patrick

[dirk Peeters]

another question
are there plans of this ?
and what is the type of panzerteil for closing the "windows"

better pictures or plans or anything ?

[dirk Peeters]

other picture