Polish artillery captured by Germany

[Stan P]

In the middle of 2008 the two “Danish” cannons were restored and painted. Today both cannons are very interesting exhibit of museum... but some people questioned of pre-war Polish origin of guns. I ask to help – maybe artillery experts of AHF something to knows about thats guns.

I thing the cannons from WW2 Scharnhorst Platz's photos this is the same guns that are exposed today in Polish Navy Museum in Gdynia.

Interesting website about coastal artillery defence on the Hel Peninsula http://hela.com.pl/armaty.htm

The three photos below: Restored “Danish” wz.26 cannons in Muzeum Marynarki Wojennej in Gdynia today.

[Stan P]

Yet again, I would ask to help for a correction in the names of those guns and proper names. Does Schneider offer during 1920's a 105mm cannons market as Mle 1923 and Mle 1926 ? Perhaps the guns were only Schneider's prototypes or limited production for test to potential customers. Meybe later this type of gun was transformed to Mle 1925/1927 (Greek M1927) and Mle 1930 (Danish M1930) (?).

Did the Germans used the guns after captured them ? When the Germans set them on the Scharnhorst Platz ? Maybe someone knows something what happened to the guns of “Greek” Battery ?

Wikimap of Hel Peninsula with military objects:

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=54.6167163&lo ... 5&l=28&m=b

I recommend especially the details of the wikimap appear larger.

Regards. Stan

The picture below: The Polish 105mm long range cannon wz.26 (or wz.D - “Danish”) on the coastal defence gun emplacement.

[Manuferey]

Stan,

I cannot answer your questions but I find Schneider's designation of export guns often confusing (see the 75 mm guns). Here is a German picture (from ebay.de) of a 105 mm Schneider gun (I assume it's in Denmark so it would be a Mle 30 but nothing is sure):



Emmanuel

[BStahl]

They did a good job of restoring those

[Stan P]

Emmanuel thanks for Your photo. I think that the picture is the Polish city of Gdynia (German changed the name to Gotenhafen during occupation of Poland) and Polish cannon Schneider 105mm wz.26 (so-called as wz.D) from "Danish" 33rd Coastal Defence Battery.

Please compare photos of number 2 and 3 of my post number 8 (page 2 of this topic) that present Grunwald Square in Gdynia in 1948. In my view, images are captured clearly at the same place !!!

Stan

[Manuferey]

Your are right Stan ! I can see the same roof of a house in the background:



Emmanuel

[ain92]

Hello, Stan and others.
Is anything known about German designation of "Danish" and/or "Greek" guns captured from Polish coastal defence? I can't believe Germans hadn't given them Beute numbers.
Thanks in advance.

[Clive Mortimore]

Hello, Stan and others.
Is anything known about German designation of "Danish" and/or "Greek" guns captured from Polish coastal defence? I can't believe Germans hadn't given them Beute numbers.
Thanks in advance.

Hi ain92

Beute numbers were only given to army equipments. Coastal guns were naval weapons and did not always get Beute numbers and Flak were Luftwaffe weapons and rarely were given Beute numbers.

Another oddity was captured Czech and Polish weapons were not given Beute numbers either.

So there are two reasons for these guns not having Beute numbers, Polish coastal guns.

Yours

Clive

[ain92]

Hi ain92

Beute numbers were only given to army equipments. Coastal guns were naval weapons and did not always get Beute numbers and Flak were Luftwaffe weapons and rarely were given Beute numbers.

Another oddity was captured Czech and Polish weapons were not given Beute numbers either.

So there are two reasons for these guns not having Beute numbers, Polish coastal guns.

Yours

Clive

Thank you, Clive, this's very educational information. But how did Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe denoted such artillery on the maps, schemes etc. if it hadn't been designated?

[jopaerya]

Just for the record the Danish 10.5 cm M /30 L/48 Schneider guns were labelled as 10.5 cm K 321(d)

Regards Jos

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

An image of a 105mm Schneider Wz.1926 L48 (Wz.D or Danish model) polish gun:

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Andrzej Ditrich]

Hi all,

An image of a 105mm Schneider Wz.1926 L48 (Wz.D or Danish model) polish gun:

Image from EBay
Sturm78

Danish or Greece model. Photo made in Gdynia on Scharnhorstplatz.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image from EBay
Sturm78

[Ponury]

It`s the same street in Gdynia. Today it`s Plac Grunwaldzki street.

https://www.google.pl/imgres?imgurl=htt ... Ggod2PEBWw

[Von Kluck]

Hello All

Marinearsenal 11-1940

7,5cm S.K.C/97 in 7,5cm poln M.P.L. 10 x in Kiel
7,5cm Feld K. in Radlaf. 112x
21 x in Holland
13 x in Belgium
18 x in France
12 x MaZa Wilhelmhaven
48 x reserve
7,5 cm Ubts.K L/38 (p) 3 x Dusseldorf (Rheinmetall)
7,5 cm Flak (p) Schneider-Creusot 14 x Dusseldorf (Rheinmetall)
4 cm Bofors (p) 9 x Molde and Kiel

Regards Jos

Hi guys ,
Anybody knows where were this 13 guns deployed in Belgium?
Thanks ,
Von Kluck