French Navy guns 7,5 and 10,5

[jopaerya]

Hi All

I am looking for info and pictures of the French Navy
guns of 7,5 cm and 10,5 cm , I only have there German
names 7,5 cm KM 08 (f) and 10,5 cm KM ? (f)
Thanks in advance

Regards Jos

[Grigory]

Hi Jos

French 75mm Naval guns You can find here

75mm L62 Mle 1908
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-62_m1908.htm

Also there were 75mm L50 Mle 1922, 1924 and 1927
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNFR_3-50_m1922.htm

French Navy before WW2 had only one model of 105mm gun: ex-German 105mm L45 SK C/06. It was used on German destoyers given to France for reparations. The ships were scrappled in 1930s but their guns could be used for axillary French ships or in coastal defence. All other French guns of similar calibre were 100mm.

[jopaerya]

Hi Grigory

Thanks for the info , and in special the 10,5 cm
gun very nice info , I found one coast batterie in
Brest with this gun.

Regards Jos

[Grigory]

One more idea on 105mm: could it be Army 105mm gun (Mle 1913 or Mle 1936) used in coastal defence? Some other field guns were used by French navy on coastal mountings (155mm Mle 1932, for example). Maybe 105mm also... but it is only a supposition...

[jopaerya]

Hi Grigory

This battery is a naval one , M.K.B. Potzic I
4 x 10,5 SK (f) so I think it is the naval gun
and not the army gun . S.K. = Schiff Kanone

Regards Jos

[Grigory]

Hi Jos

Two more 105mm naval battery

...the rest of 1st Rangers lands and climbs up the cliffs, to seize Fort du Nord and its battery of four 105mm guns that dominate the Golfe d’Arzew...

...Atop Ravin Blanc, French gunners spot the two ships, and illuminate Walney with a searchlight. The French cut loose with 105mm guns against the thinly-clad cutters...

http://www.usswashington.com/dl08no42.htm

French coastal defence, Oran, operation Torch. So many 105mm... If it was really ex-German then it seems that French Navy carefully preserved all of them. I found that 9 German destroyers served in France until 1933-35; 8 of them had 3-4 105mm (and one with 15cm). So about 25-30 guns... enough to equip several batteries.

So I think that hypothesis of German origin of these 105mm is correct.

[French One]

Hi Grigory

This battery is a naval one , M.K.B. Potzic I
4 x 10,5 SK (f) so I think it is the naval gun
and not the army gun . S.K. = Schiff Kanone

Regards Jos

Portzic, with a "R"
4./MaFl.A. 811 (4X10,5 SKC/33)

I'm working on Stutzpunkte Marineschule and Olberg in BREST ; pics soon I hope!

[jopaerya]

Hello French One

Thanks for the correktion , offcource it is Portzic
There were 3 M.K.B. at Portzic and one M.F.B. as you
know .
Alain Chazette is writhing in his book that the French
10,5 guns were changed in 10,5 cm S.K.C/32u , do you
know anything about this ???

Regards Jos

[French One]

Hi Jos,

No, sorry, I've no much informations about that.
Maybe, I'll visit this Stp soon ; hope I'll walk in subterraneans passages behind the U-bunker (military area).

[jopaerya]

Hi French One

When you visit the Stollen between the Marineschule and the U-Bootbunker .
I hope they look the same as this drawing .
This Stollen were used in August 1944 as hospital for the German troops .

Regards Jos

[French One]

Hi French One

When you visit the Stollen between the Marineschule and the U-Bootbunker .
I hope they look the same as this drawing .
This Stollen were used in August 1944 as hospital for the German troops .

Regards Jos

Hi Jos,
It's great to "talk" with you! You have great informations!
What is this pic? A plan?
Do you have more stuffs like that? Would you share them?
Thanks!

[jopaerya]

Hi All

In a Fortificatione & Patrimoine No 9 found this photo from 10,5 cm (f) 1/615
at M.K.B. Fort Bear ( Port-Vendres ) transferred in 03/1944 to M.K.B. Fort Carre
( at Collioure ) in M 272 .
The gun official name is "10,5 cm Ubts. u. Tbts. Flak C/16 in L. C/17 (f) ehem.
deutsche Geschütz".

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Hello All

Beside the 9 Destroyers found by Grigory , I was told by a "French Connection" that
after World War I the French recieved 46 German U-boots and even 10 were used by
the French Navy and were renamed , so the French Navy had even more German guns
to there disposal . With the 25-30 guns from Grigory we can count 46 extra , a total of +/_
70 guns in French service or stocked in Arsenals .

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Looks to me a French 105 mm Mle 1893 , could this be Brest ??

Picture = Ebay

Regards Jos

[ludvig]

Hello Jos ,
Have you seen the answer from AVLF in post , 30 Nov 2012 in this tread :

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... &start=360

In Alain Chazette , Les Batteries Cotieres du Nord - Pas -de - Calais
at page 138 :
Les Batterie du Portsic with 3 x 105 mm Mle 1897

ludvig