French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by jopaerya » 30 Jun 2012, 19:06

Hello

A other picture of the same gun in German service , picture is from Ebay .

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Mar 2013, 20:34

A color picture of this gun from Ebay .

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by SASH155 » 19 Mar 2013, 05:10

Sturm78 wrote:Hi David,

I think SdKfz 8 12ton tractor

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Correct, it is an SdKfz-8 12 ton semi-track artillery tractor. The big disc front wheels are a key to IDing vehicles built after 1938/39 (the Mercedes Benz built vehicles had the three pointed star on the front hubs), and the sheer size is a giveaway too. The radiator and hood/"bonnet" is wider than on an SdKfz-7.

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by David W » 19 Mar 2013, 10:28

Thanks guys.

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by jopaerya » 04 Jun 2013, 16:42

Here the 15.5. cm K.419(f) in travelling position , picture is from Ebay .

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by Sturm78 » 30 Sep 2013, 16:18

Hi all,

An 15.5cm K419f gun in tow in North Africa. Note the GPF limber, with solid rubber tires, instead of GPF-T with pneumatic wheels

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by David W » 01 Oct 2013, 00:58

Nice photo!
Good comment too.
How about that prime mover? SdKfz 7?

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by SASH155 » 01 Oct 2013, 05:16

The semi-track vehicle in this photo towing this GPFT is a Daimler Benz SdKfz-8 12 ton artillery tractor, specifically a Model DB-10 built by Mercedes and Krauss-Maffei (this latter manufacturer only built 315 of them) between 1939 and 1944. Normally this semi-track tractor would tow weapons like the 15cm K-18 and K-39 guns, 17cm K-18 in Mörser Laffette, the old First World War 21cm Lang Mörser ("M-1916"), the 21cm Mörser 18, the 10.5cm FlaK-38 and Flak-39. The GPFT could probably have been handled adequately enough by an SdKfz-7, however.

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Oct 2013, 10:20

Hi all,

Does somebody know which German artillery units used this gun in North Africa?

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by schwarzermai » 01 Oct 2013, 11:17

Hi Sturm

1./Heeres-Küsten-Artillerie-Abteilung 528 = 4./Afrika-Artilllerie-Regiment (mot.) 2 used them
the battery were motorized as part of afrika-artillery-rgt.

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Post by David W » 01 Oct 2013, 11:37

Thanks Sash.
Sturm. They were used by H.K.A.A 523, 528 & 533.

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by Sturm78 » 01 Oct 2013, 23:58

Thank you, Uwe and David W

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by schwarzermai » 02 Oct 2013, 10:56

from Heeres-Küsten-Art.Abt. 528 only the

1./528 had 15,5 cm K. 419 (f)
(2. and 3./528 had 15,5 cm K. 418 (f) ....)

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got in in May 1942 or later

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Post by David W » 03 Oct 2013, 01:00

Schwarzermai,

Thanks for that.

What were the differences between the 418(f) & the 419(f). I was under the impression (perhaps falsely) that they were essentially one and the same apart from "cosmetics".

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Re: French 155 GPFT used by German troops

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Post by Manuferey » 03 Oct 2013, 22:40

David,

The visible differences between the 155 GPF and the 155 GPFT (Touzzard) were the pneumatic wheels. The axles had also been modified accordingly. The advantage was an average towing speed increased from 7-8 km/h to 25 km/h and this translated into a longer distance being covered per day: 50-60 km for the GPF, 200 km for the GPFT.
Another modification, not visible from the outside, was a volume increase of the firing chamber allowing an increased firing range from 18.5 to 21 km. (source: Stephane Ferrard in a French forum - S. Ferrard is a French expert in the French Army's weapons in WW2).

I noticed that Stephane Ferrard wrote GPFT and not GPF-T in his article.

Emmanuel

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