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MG with scope

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Post by kstdk » 29 Aug 2014, 18:09

Hello

Has anyone ever seen a MG 34 with a scope???

Or - is it a fake???

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Post by henriquecassis » 29 Aug 2014, 19:33

Its true. The inicials shots had a good precision.


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Post by yabint » 30 Aug 2014, 12:23

Looks to be a field build using a captured Russian scope. Given that the top cover rattles from side to side and there are moving parts right under the points where the scope is fixed to it, I can't see it holding its zero very well.

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Post by StefanSiverud » 30 Aug 2014, 22:20

It would probably be a field modification or limited experiment, I don't think it's a Photoshop job (aside from converting it to grayscale - note gray arrows above the scope and shoulder).

I suspect the scope was mounted for better vision rather than accurate fire. As long as it didn't shake loose, it would work almost as well as having binoculars for finding your target, but have the benefit of being a lot faster from finding the target to firing the first burst. Considering the iron sights were not exactly still either, it should work - in theory. Given it's a rare sight (at least I've never seen it before), it might not have worked in practice, or at least not well enough to merit the effort.

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Post by kstdk » 31 Aug 2014, 01:14

Hello

I have come to some of the same conclusions as above.

It seems to be a Russian Scope - PEM 4x Scope - and the MG 34 seems to be an early model, so it is probably around operation Barbarossa in 1941.

Field modification - use, for better viuw only, not stabile sight.

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Post by CHARLEMAGNE 4 » 06 Nov 2014, 10:24

Another one

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Post by CHARLEMAGNE 4 » 06 Nov 2014, 10:39

MGZ40 scope for the MG 34/42

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Post by kstdk » 06 Nov 2014, 11:41

Hello

Thanks - but yes - that is the standard Scope for SMG (when in affutage).

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Post by tigre » 31 Jan 2020, 00:35

Hello to all :D; more..................................

Maschinengewehre (MG).

Source: https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery ... cal-scope/

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Post by tigre » 16 Mar 2020, 00:08

Hello to all :D; more..................................

Maschinengewehre (MG). Urwaldkrieg (war in the forest)

Source: https://auction.catawiki.com/kavels/237 ... -book-rare

Cheers. Raúl M 8-).
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A MG-34 in a defensive position and (from what I appreciate) with optical sight MGZ34...................
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Post by kstdk » 16 Mar 2020, 01:41

Hello

Thats fine, but - it is not the meaning with my initial post, is it?

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Post by tigre » 16 Mar 2020, 01:51

Going deep, not really...but is a good complement, don't you think so? :wink:. Cheers. Raúl M 8-).

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Post by kstdk » 16 Mar 2020, 11:58

Hello

The pictures are fine, so please go for it :-)

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Post by tigre » 16 Mar 2020, 12:44

Thank you very much :wink:.

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Post by tigre » 26 Feb 2024, 00:03

Hello to all :D; Still looking for a photo of an LMG with a scope, in the meantime........................................

In the northwest Caucasus.

Source: https://www.aboutww2militaria.com/nl/th ... C3%AB.html

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