Luger markings identification - help
Luger markings identification - help
Please help me with identifying those markings.
My Luger is produced in 1918 but those markings looks like early-Nazi Germany markings (eagle?). Is this possible?
Can someone decipher those markings?
My Luger is produced in 1918 but those markings looks like early-Nazi Germany markings (eagle?). Is this possible?
Can someone decipher those markings?
Re: Luger markings identification - help
They're not Nazi at all, just Imperial German. A very similar style of eagle can be found on Gewehr 98 rifles. The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter.
Best,
Pat
Best,
Pat
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Re: Luger markings identification - help
Thanks a lot Pat.
It looks like "I" letter, with the crown.
Can you identify that letter?
It looks like "I" letter, with the crown.
Can you identify that letter?
Re: Luger markings identification - help
Hello Igorak89,
I'm sorry, but I can't. Do you have a close-up picture with better resolution, perhaps?
Best,
Pat
I'm sorry, but I can't. Do you have a close-up picture with better resolution, perhaps?
Best,
Pat
He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently.
Re: Luger markings identification - help
I think it's a P08 made by DWM ( Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken ).
14. German military proof. Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918.
14. German military proof. Found on barrel and breechblock, 1908-1913, and breechblock only, 1914-1918.
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Re: Luger markings identification - help
Here it is.Poot wrote:Hello Igorak89,
I'm sorry, but I can't. Do you have a close-up picture with better resolution, perhaps?
Best,
Pat
I can't read the symbol on the left (with crown above) and the symbol on the right (above the eagle - letters PTV?).
Re: Luger markings identification - help
I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too.
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Re: Luger markings identification - help
Igorak89,
Greetings-
I can't read the individual letter under the crown, but it's only an inspection marking. The 'PTV' marking is different and I believe (but am not entirely certain) that it is an abbreviation for 'Polizeischule fur Technik und Verkehr' (Berlin). In 1935 this was changed to 'Technische Polizeischule.'
The floor plate of your magazine has the serial number with letter ('n'?) block, a '+' symbol, and a WaA63 (Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf-am-Neckar) stamp, indicating origin of production. I've heard that the '+' symbol indicates the second of two magazines assigned to the same pistol, and was used by the military to distinguish this, whereas the Polizei used a '1' and '2' to distinguish between the first and second assigned magazines. Please don't assume this is certain, as I am a rifle collector and not a handgun collector. My handgun collection is very small and my experience with handguns is through my professional career, and only with very modern handguns.
I used to have a 1918 DWM Luger that was a likely WWI bring-back. It's the only gun I've ever regretted selling!
Good luck,
Pat
Greetings-
I can't read the individual letter under the crown, but it's only an inspection marking. The 'PTV' marking is different and I believe (but am not entirely certain) that it is an abbreviation for 'Polizeischule fur Technik und Verkehr' (Berlin). In 1935 this was changed to 'Technische Polizeischule.'
The floor plate of your magazine has the serial number with letter ('n'?) block, a '+' symbol, and a WaA63 (Mauser-Werke AG, Oberndorf-am-Neckar) stamp, indicating origin of production. I've heard that the '+' symbol indicates the second of two magazines assigned to the same pistol, and was used by the military to distinguish this, whereas the Polizei used a '1' and '2' to distinguish between the first and second assigned magazines. Please don't assume this is certain, as I am a rifle collector and not a handgun collector. My handgun collection is very small and my experience with handguns is through my professional career, and only with very modern handguns.
I used to have a 1918 DWM Luger that was a likely WWI bring-back. It's the only gun I've ever regretted selling!
Good luck,
Pat
He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently.
Re: Luger markings identification - help
Thank you very much, Pat.
Re: Luger markings identification - help
I agree with Pat on the PTV marking. My reference book (The Standard Catalog of Luger by Aarron Davis, page 103) shows the eagle with PTV over it. It is described as "Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp.
The crown inspection stamp may possibly be the letter "O" in Fraktur font but not sure if that letter was ever used for inspections.
The crown inspection stamp may possibly be the letter "O" in Fraktur font but not sure if that letter was ever used for inspections.
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