Bergmann light machine gun in WW I?

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Bergmann light machine gun in WW I?

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Post by Reigo » 13 Aug 2003, 18:06

In a couple of sources I have encountered a mention that during the War of Independence (1918-1920) the Estonian troops had at their disposal a small number of "Bergmann light machine guns". I can only guess that these were the MP-18 submachine guns. Or there existed also Bergmann light machine guns?

Thanks for any help,

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Post by Juha Tompuri » 13 Aug 2003, 21:36

Hi!

Finnish Defence Forces had about 20 Bergmann LMG´s, of which 19 were sold abroad 1937 by Transbaltic Oy company. Their origing is not known for sure, but possibly they were from our Independence War 1918.

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Post by Peter H » 14 Aug 2003, 02:39

Germans with Bergmann MG15 Caporetto 1917:

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The Bergmann MG15 was used in small numbers from 1916 onwards.It was sighted to only 400m despite a range of around 4,000m.It had a tendency to overheat and jam though.It was also used more extensively on aircraft.

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Isn't that Madsen LMG?

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Post by JTV » 14 Aug 2003, 10:53

Moulded wrote:Germans with Bergmann MG15 Caporetto 1917:

--the pic--
Are you certain for that being the correct picture? It looks a lot more like Madsen LMG to me.

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Post by Reigo » 14 Aug 2003, 12:09

Thanks for responses. I had made a search with Google before I asked here, but it seems I wrote Bergman instead of Bergmann.

Now from here http://www.firstworldwar.com/atoz/mgun_mg15na.htm
Bergmann MG15 nA Gun
Updated - Saturday, 3 May, 2003

Although by no means supplanting the widespread and effective Maschinengewehr 08, the Bergmann 7.92mm machine gun (the MG15 nA) was adopted by the German Army in 1915 as a means of meeting increasing demand for the machine gun as a battlefield weapon, and was also adopted by the nascent air service.

The MG15 nA proved far lighter than the renowned MG08. It was not as reliable as the MG08 however. Originally water-cooled the model was subsequently modified to replace the water-jacket with a perforated jacket to facilitate air cooling. It was fed via a 200-round belt up to a theoretical cyclic rate of 500 rounds per minute, although it tended to overheat after just 300 rounds.

The MG15 nA's range was 400m, the weapon being a designated close-range weapon. Often compared to the British Lewis light machine gun, the latter was usually regarded as the better, more reliable weapon.

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Re: Bergmann light machine gun in WW I?

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Post by audrew » 13 May 2011, 11:33

LMG 15 Bergmann (air cooled machine gun, luftgekühltes Maschinengewehr)
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Post by audrew » 13 May 2011, 11:41

lmg15, lmg15nA
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Post by audrew » 14 May 2011, 12:32

Bergmann LMG15 and 15nA is modernized machine gun M1910 Bergmann
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Post by audrew » 15 May 2011, 12:27

air cooled Bergmann
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Post by audrew » 15 May 2011, 12:35

Bergmann LMG15 photos
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Post by audrew » 16 May 2011, 11:43

Light machine gun training course 1917 Rembertow-Warsaw
Bergmann 15nA garrison to defend the laundry
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Post by audrew » 16 May 2011, 11:54

barell Bergmann
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Post by audrew » 16 May 2011, 19:11

to by continued
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Post by audrew » 20 May 2011, 11:32

machine gun Bergmann
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Re: Bergmann light machine gun in WW I?

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Post by peeved » 21 May 2011, 12:56

From my MCFA.

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