A linguistic map of the German Empire based on the 1900 census (in German)

[Futurist]

[Futurist]

For the record, this map shows that Germany's territorial losses as a result of the 1919 Versailles Treaty were not that bad; after all, most of Germany's territorial losses involved territory which did not have an ethnic German-majority population.

[Karelia]

Except the territories lost to France and Belgium...

[Futurist]

Except the territories lost to France and Belgium...

Yes; correct! Of course, Malmedy might have been either majority-French or lose to it while many of the ethnic Germans in Alsace-Lorraine appears to have had no love for Germany.

[Karelia]

If Malmedy had been majority French, it surely would have been shown in that map.

Don't think, that the ethnic Germans in Elsass(-Lothringen) had that great love for France either.

[Loïc]

as if being frenchmen during 223 years was nothing...especially in a centralist-national State like France
they fell so in love with Germany that many people immigrated to Algeria after 1871 and half of the Foreign Legion c.1900 coming from young people from Alsace-Moselle, and in 1914-1918 as during WWII the conscripts were sent to the Eastern front and not against France...
many settlers and administrators coming from Germany to germanise the people and the region, you don't erase 2 centuries like that in the country of the Generals Kléber Kellerman Lefèbvre Rapp

as repeated often by french members, the "Lorraine" was not annexed, ~75% of this area remaining french after 1871, only one of the 4 departments, today Moselle becoming german, Alsace-Lorraine is the very bad french translation of the german terminology Alsace Lotharingie

[Futurist]

If Malmedy had been majority French, it surely would have been shown in that map.

I was only talking about the town of Malmedy here, though--not about the entire Malmedy district (Malmedy Kreis). Indeed, even for the entire Malmedy district, this map points out that this district had a sizable French minority.

Don't think, that the ethnic Germans in Elsass(-Lothringen) had that great love for France either.

The Reichstag election results in Alsace-Lorraine in the late 19th century appear to contradict your point here, though.

[Futurist]

as if being frenchmen during 223 years was nothing...especially in a centralist-national State like France
they fell so in love with Germany that many people immigrated to Algeria after 1871 and half of the Foreign Legion c.1900 coming from young people from Alsace-Moselle, and in 1914-1918 as during WWII the conscripts were sent to the Eastern front and not against France...
many settlers and administrators coming from Germany to germanise the people and the region, you don't erase 2 centuries like that in the country of the Generals Kléber Kellerman Lefèbvre Rapp

as repeated often by french members, the "Lorraine" was not annexed, ~75% of this area remaining french after 1871, only one of the 4 departments, today Moselle becoming german, Alsace-Lorraine is the very bad french translation of the german terminology Alsace Lotharingie

Wasn't France's natural anthem (La Marseillaise) written in Strasbourg?

Also, your information here is probably correct. After all, either a sizable minority or a majority of the voters in Alsace-Lorraine voted for Protest candidates in all German Reichstag elections up to 1887:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichslan ... .80.931912

Indeed, there certainly appears to have been a good amount of love for France in Alsace-Lorraine in the early years of German rule in Alsace-Lorraine.

[Michate]

Also, your information here is probably correct. After all, either a sizable minority or a majority of the voters in Alsace-Lorraine voted for Protest candidates in all German Reichstag elections up to 1887:

And ceased to do so after 1890, voting Catholic instead.

BTW, after the territory had fallen back to France in the wake of WW1 and the French had expelled part of the German population, a sizable minority, if not majority, of voters continued to vote Protest (autonomist) candidates, this time against the French, as the same Wikipedia article shows.

[Futurist]

Also, your information here is probably correct. After all, either a sizable minority or a majority of the voters in Alsace-Lorraine voted for Protest candidates in all German Reichstag elections up to 1887:

And ceased to do so after 1890, voting Catholic instead.

Yes; correct! Indeed, did they stop voting for separatist parties starting from 1890 due to a lack of hope? Or did they stop voting for separatist parties for another reason?

BTW, after the territory had fallen back to France in the wake of WW1 and the French had expelled part of the German population, a sizable minority, if not majority, of voters continued to vote Protest (autonomist) candidates, this time against the French, as the same Wikipedia article shows.

OK.