Italian Weapons
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I don't have anything about HE, AP could penetrate 47mm at 100m 38mm at 500m (another place says 34mm at 910m). 640m/s. 84 rounds
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with it being an old gun (also used on the fiat 3000 tank) did it have a HE shell ?.
Dili, I have had a go at putting various guns in what units they might have been issude to,
75/13 M.15 & 100/17 M.16 MOUNTAIN = ALPINE
75/18 M.34, 75/27 M.06 & M.11 75/28 M.05 & 100/17 M.14 FIELD = INFANTRY DIVISIONS
105/28 & ALL 149mm Weapons = ARMY ARTILLERY
cant find anywhere for the 65/17 M.13 (only porteed) or 105/14 M.18 Howitzer
Thanks Yan.
Dili, I have had a go at putting various guns in what units they might have been issude to,
75/13 M.15 & 100/17 M.16 MOUNTAIN = ALPINE
75/18 M.34, 75/27 M.06 & M.11 75/28 M.05 & 100/17 M.14 FIELD = INFANTRY DIVISIONS
105/28 & ALL 149mm Weapons = ARMY ARTILLERY
cant find anywhere for the 65/17 M.13 (only porteed) or 105/14 M.18 Howitzer
Thanks Yan.
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I think do you mean 77/28 instead 75/28 no? They were only in Lybian Divisions.
75/18 were in Julia Alpine Division too but generally okay. The 100mm Howitzers were all the same, they had different wheels but other than that it was the same howitzer.
There were 4x65mm guns(not portee) per infantry Regiment so 8 per Division . Look at this:
http://niehorster.orbat.com/019_italy/4 ... nf_40.html
http://niehorster.orbat.com/019_italy/__italy.htm
There were only 28 Portee Morris w/65mm gun and they were put in special composite groups.
105 were only at Corps level(later went also to Motorised and Armored Divisions). 149 were at Corps and Army level and Coastal Divisions.
105/14 was in Coastal Divisions and GAF.
75/18 were in Julia Alpine Division too but generally okay. The 100mm Howitzers were all the same, they had different wheels but other than that it was the same howitzer.
There were 4x65mm guns(not portee) per infantry Regiment so 8 per Division . Look at this:
http://niehorster.orbat.com/019_italy/4 ... nf_40.html
http://niehorster.orbat.com/019_italy/__italy.htm
There were only 28 Portee Morris w/65mm gun and they were put in special composite groups.
105 were only at Corps level(later went also to Motorised and Armored Divisions). 149 were at Corps and Army level and Coastal Divisions.
105/14 was in Coastal Divisions and GAF.
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Thanks Dili, yes I made a typing error yesterday, it was the 77/28 not the 75/28, sorry in a hurry.
Yan.
Yan.
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Dili, what crew numbers did the Canioneta's have , were they the same as there ground fire cousins ?.
Thanks Yan.
Thanks Yan.
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Don't know.
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Dili has found this website, and it has this page showing the equipment in use by the RE on June 10th, 1940:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/ramius/Milita ... menti.html
It contains artillery pieces. Find below a partial copy and paste job of the above page, translated by Babelfish:
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/ramius/Milita ... menti.html
It contains artillery pieces. Find below a partial copy and paste job of the above page, translated by Babelfish:
LIGHT WEAPONS
Guns 345.000
Guns and moschetti 2.520.000
Guns machine gunners 37.000
Machine-guns 37.000
Mortars of onslaught from 45 7.700
81 mm mortars 2.200
Guns antitank from 47/32 1.040
FIELD ARTILLERIES THEM (7.262)
Guns from 65/17 719
Howitzers from 75/13 1.167
Howitzers from 75/18 122
Guns from 75/27 2.997
Guns from 77/28 552
Howitzers from 100/17 1.705
MEDIUM FIELD ARTILLERIES THEM (1.648)
Guns from 105/28 956
Guns from 105/32 238
Howitzers from 149/13 490
HEAVY ARTILLERIES (1.137)
Guns from 149/35 895
Guns from 149/40 48
Howitzers from 152/13 88
Guns from 152/37 29
Guns from 152/45 53
Howitzers from 210/22 24
ARTILLERIES FROM POSITION (2,500 approximately)
Guns 37/10, 57/30, 57/43, 75 To, 75/27, 104/32, 120/21, 120/25, 120/40, 120/45, 120/50, 149/35,149/37, 149/47, 152/50, 155/25, 305/50, 381/40
Howitzers 70/15, 76/17, 105/14, 149/12, 305/17, 380/15, 420/12
Mortars 210/8, 240/12, 260/9, 305/8, 305/10
ANTIAIRCRAFT ARTILLERIES (2.606)
Guns from 20/60 20
Guns from 20/65 1.160
Guns from 20/70 24
Guns from 37/40 141
Guns from 66/47 18
Guns from 75/27 250
Guns from 75/46 92
Guns from 76/40 492
Guns from 76/45 232
Guns from 77/28 90
Guns from 88/56 36
Guns from 100/47 41
Guns from 102/35 110
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Thanks Guys.
Yan.
Yan.
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Was the 65/17 infantry support gun ever towed by a vehicle or was it always porteed?
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It didnt had wheels to be towed except at most slow speeds.