Pantelleria 1943
Pantelleria 1943
Does anyone have an order of battle of the Italian forces stationed at Pantelleria at the time it its surrender in 1943?
Thanks.
/Marcus
Thanks.
/Marcus
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Re: Pantelleria 1943
MILMART command "Pantelleria", with :Marcus Wendel wrote:Does anyone have an order of battle of the Italian forces stationed at Pantelleria at the time it its surrender in 1943?
Thanks.
/Marcus
"Giuseppe Caminita" battery (Navy) (152/45)
"Agostino Strascia" battery (Navy) (152/45)
"Paolo Roccella" battery (Navy) (152/45)
3 x 120/53 MILMART btys
3 x 90/53 MILMART btys
14 x 76/49 MILMART bty
(129th, 174th, 185th, 292nd, 299th, 341st, 356th, 382nd, 406th, 471st, 637th, 688th, 738th, 859th, plus six others)
Army mixed brigade HQ (Gen.Maffei)
1st Bn/5th Infantry Rgt "Aosta"
2nd Bn/5th Infantry Rgt "Aosta"
3rd mobile special defence battalion (from the 140th Rgt )
21st special coy/5th Infantry Rgt "Aosta"
6th special coy/129th Rgt
7th special coy/129th Rgt
201st Mortar coy (81mm)
Independent Light Tanks coy/4th Tank Rgt (L3/35)
150th Mixed artillery bn bn gt, with :
- 268th Artillery battery (65/17)
- 3rd battery/3rd Artillery Rgt "Articelere" (75/27)
Engineers command "Pantelleria", with:
- 47th Engineers workers coy
- 50th Engineers mixed coy
- 107th Engineers workers coy
- 108th Engineers workers coy
- 208th Engineers construction coy
455th Frontier Guards MMG coy
526th Frontier Guards MMG coy
540th Frontier Guards MMG coy
535th Frontier Guards MMG coy
654th Frontier Guards MMG coy
655th Frontier Guards MMG coy
656th Frontier Guards MMG coy
657th Frontier Guards MMG coy
658th Frontier Guards MMG coy
753rd Frontier Guards MMG coy
1st Static coastal MMG coy "Aosta"
2nd Static coastal MMG coy "Aosta"
3rd Static coastal MMG coy "Aosta"
138th Field hospital
139th Field hospital
???th Navy hospital
???th Veterinary infirmary
28th Trucks section
Air force personnel at the airport
German radar personnel (78 men)
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Re: Pantelleria 1943
Small correction:
120/53 should be 120/50
76/49 should be 76/40.
120/53 should be 120/50
76/49 should be 76/40.
Re: Pantelleria 1943
Many thanks to both of you for that very details oob.
/Marcus
/Marcus
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Here is a picture of a 13.2 mm Breda Mod. 1931 heavy AA MG (type identified by Sturm 78 ) captured on Pantellaria island during Operation Corkscrew (June 11, 1943):
An interesting summary report about the attack on Pantellaria exists:
Emmanuel
An interesting summary report about the attack on Pantellaria exists:
Emmanuel
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The light AA included 23 x 20L65 and 8 x 13,2mmManuferey wrote:Here is a picture of a 13.2 mm Breda Mod. 1931 heavy AA MG
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On a somewhat related matter, does anyone have the OOB for the Italian garrison of Lampedusa at around the same time frame?
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Lampedusa Naval HQ : Com.BernardiniKingfish wrote:On a somewhat related matter, does anyone have the OOB for the Italian garrison of Lampedusa at around the same time frame?
Lampedusa Army HQ : Lt.Col. Paleologo
365th G.a.F (Frontier Guards) MMG coy
601st G.a.F MMG coy
625th G.a.F MMG coy
617th G.a.F MMG coy
653rd G.a.F MMG coy
656th G.a.F MMG coy
13th independent coy/77th Infantry Rgt "Lupi di Toscana"
14th independent coy/77th Infantry Rgt "Lupi di Toscana"
15th independent coy/77th Infantry Rgt "Lupi di Toscana"
3rd independent flamethrowers coy/Chemical Rgt.
2 x AT Artillery platoons (47L32)
3 x Mortars platoons
Independent light tanks platoon (4 x L3/35)
6th Bridge engineers independent special platoon
49th Engineers workers coy
51st Engineers workers coy
47th Engineers special mixed coy
49th Engineers workers coy
122nd Engineers workers coy
125th Engineers workers coy
6th Independent MILMART (Blackshirts Coastal Artillery) Group "Lampedusa", with :
- 1st MILMART battery
- 2nd MILMART battery
- 136th MILMART battery
- 259th MILMART battery
- 421st MILMART battery
- 457th MILMART battery
- 511th MILMART battery
- ???th Light AA bty (20/65 Breda, plus searchlight section)
- 45h Army Artillery battery (75/27)
Lampedusa DICAT (Blackshirts Antiaircraft Artillery) Command, with :
-10th Light AA section (20/65 Scotti)
-20th Light AA section (20/65 Breda)
-89th Light AA section (20/65 Breda)
-90th Light AA section (20/65 Breda)
-625th AA battery/26th DICAT Legion
-???th AA battery/26th DICAT Legion
-???th AA battery/26th DICAT Legion
Air force airport garrison and services elements
870th Alpini Field Hospital
Services special coy/5th Infantry Rgt "Aosta"
22nd Tucks special section
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Any info on the type of guns used by the MILMART coastal artillery?
Also, and this is probably a stretch to ask, but would you know what the OOB would have been at or around the time of the proposed Operation Workshop (Jan '41)?
Also, and this is probably a stretch to ask, but would you know what the OOB would have been at or around the time of the proposed Operation Workshop (Jan '41)?
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Sorry, no clue on both.Kingfish wrote:Any info on the type of guns used by the MILMART coastal artillery?
Also, and this is probably a stretch to ask, but would you know what the OOB would have been at or around the time of the proposed Operation Workshop (Jan '41)?
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OK, searched a bit about Lampedusa, and found something about the artillery. For a good article and some nice maps you can look at http://www.scribd.com/doc/16641522/La-P ... iugno-1943
A short summary :
The three (not two) DICAT AA batteries had 75/46 guns.
The coastal defences (MILMART) batteries had :
4 x 76/40 batteries (4 guns each) (136th, 157th, 259th and 457th battery)
2 x 90/53 battery (5 guns each) (511st and 421st battery)
1 x 149/43 battery (4 guns) (1st battery) (Navy crew, not MILMART)
1 x 152/45 battery (3 guns) (2nd battery) (Navy crew, not MILMART)
There were also 4 searchlights sections, and the smallish air force garrison included a group or radar operators (including 3 germans). But you will find more details in the article.
A short summary :
The three (not two) DICAT AA batteries had 75/46 guns.
The coastal defences (MILMART) batteries had :
4 x 76/40 batteries (4 guns each) (136th, 157th, 259th and 457th battery)
2 x 90/53 battery (5 guns each) (511st and 421st battery)
1 x 149/43 battery (4 guns) (1st battery) (Navy crew, not MILMART)
1 x 152/45 battery (3 guns) (2nd battery) (Navy crew, not MILMART)
There were also 4 searchlights sections, and the smallish air force garrison included a group or radar operators (including 3 germans). But you will find more details in the article.
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Wow, that is an incredible find. Thanks very much
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If admiral Pavesi was the gouvernor of Pantelleria and generale di brigata Achille Maffei chief of troups of R.E., what was the role of general d'Amico (if in any case he was on the island) ?
Thanks for tour help
ALEX
Thanks for tour help
ALEX
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