Was Hitler really incompetent as the Supreme Commander

[Marcus]

An interesting discussion about Stalingrad got its own thread at http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6&t=213335

/Marcus

[Spacewrangler]

Hitler should have listened to Rommel, and gone on and conquered the Arab rich regions east of the Nile, which already a pro German government in place in Iraq, he could have easily conquered the pan Arab region fulfilling the huge demands Germany had for Petro and oil and not had to worry about the Caucus oilfields what so ever or at that time, had Rommel's DAK army been given additional Panzer divisions conquering the pan Arab region would have solved Germany's Petro and oil supplies, would have won the North African front and would have taken considerable pressure of the western front since cutting off Petro and oil to Britain would have surely taken some wind out of their fight and might have brought them to a negotiation table concerning the western front. Once the other two fronts were stabilized and secure, with Germany's back door secure , then he should have attacked Russia and the slovick east with everything he had. But as we all know Hitler thought like a corporal instead of a General and his military leadership was not very good for the German people, he should have stuck to his God givin talent of being a politician and let German Generals conduct matters of war fare. Had he done so a map of the globe might look very different today with an enlarged Germany on it !

[ljadw]

1)Rommel did not propose to go farther than the Nile

2)It was out of the question that the AK could go farther than the Nile

3) There was nothing interesting in the ME for Germany,neither for Britain : the ME oil was only a small % of the world oil production :the dictum was that in the ME were only Arabs,sand and flies .

[Spacewrangler]

Just finished a book on Rommel , he was indeed going to press on the Nile Delta , then move on through the oil rich pan Arab region , making an attack on the caucus oilfields mute because he would have British oil and Petro for German use and it could have brought the Brits to the bargaining table

[doogal]

book sources etc please

[AJFFM]

Hitler should have listened to Rommel, and gone on and conquered the Arab rich regions east of the Nile, which already a pro German government in place in Iraq

Which rich regions? Jordan? Deserts, mountains and small farms. Palestine? Even blind British support (Orde Wingate et al) of zionist terrorist organisations didn't turn the population against the British in the great revolt, Germans are less welcome. Syria? after the Germans supported Vichy? no way. Lebanon? See Syria. Iraq? Rashid Ali Al-Gaylani's government ruled for exactly 2 months during which its divisions melted away in front of a tiny Indian force without a fight (Mosul 2014 anyone?) and not a single regional power broker nor the population supported his efforts (compared with 1920). Saudi Arabia? Its oil was an American monopoly at the time and support for foreign invasion in this inhospitable land was minuscule. Iran? Already occupied by the Red Army and the British. Not forgetting the horrendous logistical situation which makes western Soviet Union a model of good roads.

he could have easily conquered the pan Arab region fulfilling the huge demands Germany had for Petro and oil and not had to worry about the Caucus oilfields what so ever or at that time, had Rommel's DAK army been given additional Panzer divisions conquering the pan Arab region would have solved Germany's Petro and oil supplies, would have won the North African front and would have taken considerable pressure of the western front since cutting off Petro and oil to Britain would have surely taken some wind out of their fight and might have brought them to a negotiation table concerning the western front. Once the other two fronts were stabilized and secure, with Germany's back door secure , then he should have attacked Russia and the slovick east with everything he had. But as we all know Hitler thought like a corporal instead of a General and his military leadership was not very good for the German people, he should have stuck to his God givin talent of being a politician and let German Generals conduct matters of war fare. Had he done so a map of the globe might look very different today with an enlarged Germany on it !

Buy a map of the region, read how "popular" the Germans were in the Arab countries they already occupied, how popular they were after bombing Egyptian cities to understand that you are writing fairy tales.