Female Sonderdienst?

[Arto O]

Hi,
Were there females in service of Sonderdienst or is she just wearing the cap of some male member?
Source: Reibert info
Thanks
Arto

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[Helge]

Perhaps the only body can belong that is the "Flak Helper" movement started in the early months of 1944, Kriegseinsatzkommando Polcn HJ (Hitler Youth Action Commando War, Poland), was set up, but it was shortly thereafter disbanded since it had had virtually no success in recruiting polish youths. Maybe it was similar to corps established in Ukraine (attached a photograph)

[history1]

The sign on her badge remembers me on the municipal railway nowadays.
Compare it: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:S-bahn-wien.JPG

[Helge]

The sign on her badge remembers me on the municipal railway nowadays.
Compare it: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:S-bahn-wien.JPG

It's true!

Here are the uniforms and symbols of "Sonderdienst" (I'm going off topic: sorry for me)

[Helge]

Here are the uniforms and symbols of "Sonderdienst" (I'm going off topic: sorry for me)

[Helge]

Reference Book

[Max]

. Maybe it was similar to corps established in Ukraine (attached a photograph)

http://translate.google.com.au/translat ... CGEQ7gEwCw

[Helge]

. Maybe it was similar to corps established in Ukraine (attached a photograph)

http://translate.google.com.au/translat ... CGEQ7gEwCw

The woman in question does not have the insignia of the Ukrainian but "Sonderdienst" (which is composed of Polish volunteers). How do you define the woman from Ukraine? Mystery.

[Max]

This link is to a forum in Ukraine and seems to refer to a photo found in the house of a Polish man living[?] in Ukraine
The forum member [volodia] says

Zhovkva resident Mary Keith, worked in the service Zonderdinst (security service recruited from local folsdoychiv, but why there appeared to Ukrainian-unknown) on her jacket and a badge with a trident, I think that she worked in the office, perhaps perekkladachem. although it had to wear caps.

[Bing translation]
http://translate.google.com.au/translat ... gQ7gEwBDgK


Also this - Can anyone translte the book title?

http://varjag-2007.livejournal.com/1210891.html

This is the badge enlarged and sharpened - It looks more like an eagle to me

[Helge]

See above: the Ukrainians have the lion. Regarding the frame of the photograph with written in Cyrillic is a pure forgery

[history1]

This link is to a forum in Ukraine and seems to refer to a photo found in the house of a Polish man living[?] in Ukraine [...]

Long time ago the western Ukraine was part of Poland. AFAIK In the last sentence the forum member Volodia assume that she worked as help at the Luftwaffe.

[Arto O]

Thanks Silvia, Helge, History1 and Max,
Sorry, I was confused at the beginning with the German Sonderdienst. I should consult the same book as Helge. So there were of course the German Sonderdienst and also Zonderdinst (I have heard about before)? Here another photo from the same organization, now worn by a man. Could there be a word "Generalgouvernement" in his cufftitle?

sonder1.jpg

sonder2.jpg

Source: Reibert.info
Also from AHF, from which topic started my confusion

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[history1]

[...] Could there be a word "Generalgouvernement" in his cufftitle?[...]

Sure it is. Found this: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... p?t=476473
and http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... blinie.jpg
Note the cuff title in the 2nd image with "xx Sonderdienst- Selbstschutz"

[Helge]

Hi,
Were there females in service of Sonderdienst or is she just wearing the cap of some male member?
Source: Reibert info
Thanks
Arto

For me wearing the hat of a member of the Sonderdienst. Wearing a hat just to make the picture. No women is documented in membership Sonderdienst.

[wm]

In this case the male counterpart should have an unusually small head, because it seems this cap fits her perfectly.