Sup fellas,
I decided to do a small overview about the clues you guys gathered over the 7 years regarding the LGG, though I have to admit that I only read the last 30 pages as I thought it would be enough to filter some of the flimsy evidence. Feel free to post suggestions/correct me.
Let's start with the User 'Münchhausen'. He is probably the closest we got in the search of the LGG. 'Münchhausen' suggests that his grandpa had a personal encounter with the LGG on the 8th of May, 1945. That's of course, if one belevies his story. Let's just assume every word he said is true, because my whole post revovles about what he wrote in the last few pages. If you guys found out that he's a fraud and already debunked him then I'll be a sad panda. Well anyway..
'Münchausen' claims his grandpa was there
when this footage was shot by the american GI Haglund and also that he had a brief encounter with the woman shown in the video.
He posts;
He surrendered to the Americans on May 8th, 1945 next to Rokycany with several of his companions of the SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 4 "Der Führer". He was not a member of the column commanded by Weiddinger - left later - but was progressing with two other motorcyclists of the SS-Aufklärungs rolled up in white flags and sent by officers to recognize and make sure that the road had well been secured - as agreed between Weiddinger and the Americans - because the attacks of partisans were ceaseless. He told me that the concerned German troops had all received from some American gasoline without which they would never have been able to cross the distance between Prag and Rokycany.
The LGG was a member of a group of about ten Waffen-SS " Böhmen " wearing civilian clothes and desperately trying to reach the American lines. My great-uncle remembers that, when arriving at their level, the young woman burst in the middle of the road, making signs so that they stop, which they did. So she asked if they knew where were the Americans. He remembers perfectly her fascinating beauty in spite of the knocks she received in the face, her youth and desperate energy. Other men were set back and looked exhausted and discouraged, being afraid of encountering again partisans. My great-uncle and his friends advised them to wait for the main column coming from Prague as getting themselves involved to it. The fact is that Weiddinger orders were strict: only the military units belonging to 2. SS-Panzer-Division were concerned by the protocol of surrender. The motorcyclists gave to the group of fugitives their last rations and restarted in the direction of Rokycany.
I asked my great-uncle if, He believed that she belonged to the SS : He said « Maybe an Aufseherin or one of those girls from the SS-Flak, maybe a German of Sudetenland". I showed him the Luftwaffe pants: he answered me by laughing that all the German girls adored the Luftwaffe ski pants and that even SS auxiliary wore it.
He added that she really had something, otherwise He wouldn't have remembered her : "something as a kind of repressed humanity which had just reappeared in the middle of war abjection, probably too late" He also told me that this situation was really really sad because He and his comrades knew from the beginning of this brief encounter that she had been probably raped but that nobody said anything about it.
I asked my relative if he had been able to notice that the LGG had a particular German accent: he told me again that He was sure that she was from Sudetenland.
The second time they were stopped by the LGG in the middle of the road. With her were, as I have already written, several "SS-Oberabschnitt Böhmen-Mähren" survivors of the "Kampfgruppe Wallenstein". « She was very attractive, very agitated, nervous and brave but terrified at the same time ". Several of the soldiers who wear civilian clothes had been also beaten, "certainly in Rokycany", but by civilians, not by partisans "otherwise they would have been killed ».
The most relevant points we can gather from that are:
- 1. She's from the Sudetenland
- 2. Probably a SS-/Flakhelferin
- 3. Mentioned something along the lines about pretty women being raped, so the probablity of rape reemerged ( "He also told me that this situation was really really sad because he and his comrades knew from the beginning of this brief encounter that she had been probably raped but that nobody said anything about it")
- 4. His impression of her was; "She was very attractive, very agitated, nervous and brave but terrified at the same time"
- 5. The whole encounter between him and the woman lasted about 10 min at best
- 6. Also mentions who delivered the beating; "Several of the soldiers who wear civilian clothes had been also beaten, "certainly in Rokycany", but by civilians, not by partisans "otherwise they would have been killed"
- 7. The video footage of the LGG was shot in a small village called Ejpovice, 10km away from Pilsen near the czech border.
But still no name or any solid evidence about her identity. Her fate is also unkown as the Red Army couldn't be that far away that day as the whole event took place on May 8th 1945, the end of war in europe. Since the footage was shot by the american GI 'Hardlund' it could mean that she survived the pre-post war phase and got taken in as a POW by the US but if she somehow fell into the hands of the Soviets, then her chance of surviving the early hours after the war would be minimal.
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I also suggest a stricter moderation in this thread. There's way too much reposting, introduction from new users ("Hey guys, just registered and wanted to say what an amazing forum this is..") and generally too much off topic posts.
The OP is now 7 years old. Crazy how little is known about the LGG after all these years. Granted, we are not professional investigators, with limited access to historical documents. But then again, how likely is it that a professional could find a random, unkown and historically unimportant woman, based on a 70 year old video clip with a runtime of less than a minute?
