Straßenbahn-Schaffnerinnen (Tram Conductresses)

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Straßenbahn-Schaffnerinnen (Tram Conductresses)

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Post by buchi » 14 Jun 2004, 14:10

Hello,

Is this a flakhelfster on the picture?

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Flakhelferin

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Post by Arminiusder Cherusker1 » 17 Jun 2004, 20:33

Hi buchi,
as much as I remember was that the uniform of the workers in the trams.You may see that on the left pocket where a cord can be seen.
On this cord used to be a whistle.
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Rudi


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Post by ancasta » 24 Jun 2004, 23:54

Hi there,

On her left breast pocket you can also see a RADwJ badge, denoting that she was a volunteer tram conductor in the service of the Reichsarbeitsdienst der Weiblichen Jugend or RADwJ.

I have attached a picture so that you can see what the badge would have looked like:
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Post by ancasta » 25 Jun 2004, 00:00

Long service badge (RADwJ) Colour denoting years and rank of wearer- Bronze - Silver - Gold
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#5

Post by buchi » 28 Jun 2004, 11:59

Thank you ancesta for this great information!


Greetings

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Post by ancasta » 28 Jun 2004, 22:20

No problem :-)

Her badge looks silvery, so I'd say she's been in service for at least 5 years. Gold badge wearers tended to have held ranks. Not sure about the silver badge wearers though. Members also routinely wore a round brooch at the throat of their blouses, unless they had volunteered for a service that made it impossible. And some RADwJ ladies even ended up manning FLAK guns after 1943, but came under the command of the armed forces. The lady above is definitely Tram Service though.

RADwJ was a voluntary service till 1940, when it became compulsory. It was somewhere the unmarried young women tended to go. Sadly if you wanted to go to university you had to prove you volunteered and did your 6 months service for RADwJ or you were automatically declined a place.

If you type in RADwJ on Google search you should find quite a lot of information about the service. Hope this helps.

BTW, I am doing my own ongoing research into the RADwJ. Any website links, badges for sale etc I would be interested.

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Post by maxxx » 29 Jun 2004, 22:42

As far as I know, the trams were run by the cities not by the reichsbahn, RADwJs were attached to make the conductors free for military service. I don´t know if they were under command of their organisation or just with the municipial service.

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Post by Darcy » 04 Jul 2004, 23:58

They did not fall under any of the railway authorities.I have a rare book (bahnhofsnummerenverzeichisnis)which covers all the lines of the Reichsbahn even the small,Eisenbahn and Kleinbahn.The trams are never mentioned in this book at all,which covers the years 1934-1944.

buchi,if you ever want to sell or trade that photo,I would be interested.

D

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Post by buchi » 13 Jul 2004, 10:21

PM sent Darcy


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Post by Vikki » 06 Jul 2007, 06:03

The lady in Buchi’s picture does appear to be wearing one of the RADwJ longservice brooches. But the badge normally worn by women who had completed their mandatory RADwJ service and then did a further six months’ work for the war effort (as Maxxx said, to free up the men for war service) was the Kriegshilfsdienstabzeichen.

Some photos from the cover and photo spread “ ‘Noch jemand ohne Fahrschein bitte?’: RAD.-Mädel im Kriegshilfsdienst bei den Wiener Städt. Strassenbahnen”, in the January 1943 Wiener Illustrierte. The cover photo shows nicely the woman’s Kriegshilfsdienst brooch, RADwJ Kriegshilfsdienst armband, and Rudi’s lanyard and whistle:
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Post by Vikki » 06 Jul 2007, 06:27

Training...
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Post by Vikki » 06 Jul 2007, 06:41

“Der junge Soldat und die Schaffnerin…”
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And some less glamorous, more practical jobs.
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Post by Vikki » 11 Jan 2008, 05:34

"Die Straßenbahnschaffnerin" from the postcard series Frauen Schaffen Für Euch:
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Post by Borys » 11 Jan 2008, 08:20

Ahoj!
The training pictures 005 and 009 make me think of quite recent (90s) German washing powder commercials - the same type of "Wise Man in Long Coat sorrounded by bunch of clueless women".
- OOO, so that's a tram you say? Who could've thought that!

Interesting that some wear pants.

And that impossible bee waists were already in use in advertising.
Borys

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Post by ilsaDDshewölf » 11 Jan 2008, 19:49

Those women are so pretty in the pictures, it is nice to see a not woman in uniform. From a time when most images are of despair (war).

Ilsa

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