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Women awarded the Iron Cross

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Postby Sirenia on 28 Nov 2006 00:10

Dina Poljakoff got also iron cross.

Pojakoff got request to visit in command post, she went there for curiosity, looked at cross some time and turned back and walked away. She was finnish jewess and didint toke it for that.

I saw you was wondering that some other jewish got iron cross to , so i will write some other story to, those can find also in finnish jewish registry/ finnish militar registry.

Captain Salomon klass got order to help German squad out of blockade. Him soldiers advised him to left them alone but after all he done mission.
Salomon was resting at camp when 2 high ranking officers arrived whit iron cross, They told him for what he did he will get medal and can be proud for that, he said "i am finnish soldier and jew and dont want get medals from Germans". Officers faces went white and they gone off.

Leo Skurnik got iron cross to but didint toke it also.
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Postby ancasta on 28 Nov 2006 12:11

Interesting and informative thread. Here is my contribution:

The following comes from the Academic research paper "Women in Combat: the WWII experience in the United States, Great Britain, Germany and the Soviet Union" By D'Ann Campbell - The Journal of Military History April 1993.

In East Germany in late 1944 a 22 year old Pomeranian woman and Flakhelferin known only as "Erna" was awarded the Iron Cross (2nd class) when she together with a male Sergeant and private destroyed three tanks with Panzerfausts. In response the German propaganda machine pointed out that the Panzerfaust was 'the most feminine of weapons', and within the Freikorps selected women trained in the use of Panzerfausts, grenades, handguns and automatic rifles. The daughter of the leading Nazi Ley, Lore Ley, distinguished herself by knocking out a Soviet armoured scout car near Berlin and took from its commander military documents and money. She also allegedly received the Iron Cross 2nd class for this action.
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Postby Heimatschuss on 28 Nov 2006 13:38

Hello Ancasta,

that could be Marga Droste. Matt Gibbs posted a picture of her here:

viewtopic.php?t=63367&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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Postby ancasta on 28 Nov 2006 13:48

Thank you for that link Heimatschuss - it most certainly is her :) For those of you who dont follow the link, Matt Gibbs wrote that she won it for her actions during and after a bombing raid in Wilhelmshaven caring for 150 wounded soldiers. The two schwesters standing either side of her are wearing award ribbons. Cant quite see if they are Red Cross ones or Iron Cross ones. Thoughts?
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Postby Qvist on 28 Nov 2006 15:25

The daughter of the leading Nazi Ley, Lore Ley,


:lol: Lore Ley?!!! Robert Ley must have had a sense of humuour that was either unprecedentedly wicked, or else completely non-existing.

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Postby ancasta on 28 Nov 2006 18:56

If you think that is bad I know someone called Annette Curtain :? Her parents didnt think of testing out first names with surnames before they registered her birth. Her time at school was hell...

As for Ley's daughter - I dont know much about the Ley family so I couldnt tell you if that was her real name!
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Postby Matt Gibbs on 29 Nov 2006 04:08

Annette Curtain Boom Boom....:) LOL!

Right, humour aside, I think those ribbons the Schwesters wear could be the Volkspflege medal? Not 100% sure, still thinking about it, but the social welfare side fits better that the EK11 ribbon. Not sure though.
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Postby ancasta on 29 Nov 2006 12:34

Thanks Matt :D

You cant see it very well in the above photo but her schwester's brooch is a coloured rank brooch, either blue, green or red and not the usual black. We are guessing green after playing around with the picture in Photoshop. I added my blue brooch to show people what it looked like.
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Postby Matt Gibbs on 29 Nov 2006 13:22

Yes! never easy to guess with b/w images!
I was interested to see the female party member on the right too!
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Postby Heimatschuss on 19 Dec 2006 00:30

Well Ancasta,

The daughter of the leading Nazi Ley, Lore Ley, distinguished herself by knocking out a Soviet armoured scout car near Berlin and took from its commander military documents and money. She also allegedly received the Iron Cross 2nd class for this action.


This is a nice story but must be a legend. See picture below of Robert and Lore Ley in 1940. Lore Ley must have been 6 or 7 years old in 1945. Even if a panzerfaust was an easy to handle weapon I doubt that little Lore would have been allocated one.

Source: http://www.ullsteinbild.de

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Postby redline on 22 Dec 2006 18:48

Source: World War II German Women's Auxiliary Services (p. 5)
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Postby ancasta on 23 Dec 2006 12:57

Heimatschuss wrote:This is a nice story but must be a legend. See picture below of Robert and Lore Ley in 1940. Lore Ley must have been 6 or 7 years old in 1945. Even if a panzerfaust was an easy to handle weapon I doubt that little Lore would have been allocated one.


Hi Heimatschuss,

You will have to take it up with the author D'Ann Campbell herself who published the paper with a University. I know Robert Ley had other children so the author herself may have made a grave error on the name, a very poor mistake to make for an academic paper. I just quoted directly from it :)
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Postby Vikki on 11 Nov 2007 17:33

DRK Schwester Magda Darchinger wearing the EKII and Ostfront ribbons. (From John R. Angolia, For Führer and Fatherland: Political and Civil Awards of the Third Reich.)
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Re: Women awarded the Iron Cross

Postby Heimatschuss on 05 Apr 2008 23:19

Hello to you,

any suggestions who could be the nurse below in the centre of the pic? (Source: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=83155)

The nurse to the right seems to sport an Iron Cross ribbon too. To my eyes she resembles Anne Gunhild Moxnes(viewtopic.php?f=77&t=98037 ). Opions please!

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Postby Heimatschuss on 05 Apr 2008 23:43

And another one: DRK-Generalhauptführerin Holzmann

Source: http://www.militaria-fundforum.de/attac ... 1171119970

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