Trackhead M2 wrote:Dear Rod,
Are you talking about Rosie the Riveter and all her allied sisters building for their husbands, fathers ,brothers, sons and the guy next door as opposed to slave laborers? In WW 1 German women worked in war industries. The NAZIs old fashioned sexism kept German women from working in war industries which led to the peculiar events detailed in Ryan's The Last Battle. Where German women were a bunch of teutonic Scarlett O'Haras afraid of the fate worse than death at the hands of the Red Army. If they were working, maybe they would have not had the time to sit around scared.
I just saw this.
Trackhead M2 wrote:Where German women were a bunch of teutonic Scarlett O'Haras afraid of the fate worse than death at the hands of the Red Army. If they were working, maybe they would have not had the time to sit around scared.
This is such an ignorant statement that I’m surprised you dared to make it on this forum. But I'm not surprised that this view still exists. It was the "ideal" view of women put out by the Nazis--and I don't often use that word, unless it's called for to show the difference between "Nazi" and "German", or the difference between NSDAP ideology and the facts on the ground. You've obviously bought the Nazi ideology about women's roles, which was the commonly held view among historians as well--thirty years ago.
Beyond your History Channel-inspired view of the "Golden Pheasantesses", the average German woman bore the brunt of the war's impact on life behind the front. The vast majority of them neither shared the guilt of the war, nor enjoyed the leisure of broodmares, as you suggest. In addition to performing the jobs, both military and civilian, of the men who'd been sent to the front, they were too busy keeping daily life together in the face of being bombed, and regulated, out of existence. Lest I go further on the point here, read my quote from others more eloquent at viewtopic.php?p=1185663#p1185663
You've also obviously not taken advantage of even the information available on this forum about German women. So, below, I submit a brief résumé of those "teutonic Scarlett O'Haras" who "didn't work".
German women as Auxiliaries to the military and paramilitary:
Photos of Female [Military] Auxiliaries: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=66200
(40 pages as of today's date.)
Women Awarded the Iron Cross: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=27808viewtopic.php?f=77&t=143600viewtopic.php?f=77&t=128432
Military Auxiliary ID Documents: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=121918
Nachrichtenhelferinnen des Heeres (Female Army Signals Auxiliaries):
Marinehelferinnen (Female Naval Auxiliaries): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=118854viewtopic.php?f=77&t=116448
Luftwaffe Helferinnen (Female Air Force Auxiliaries):
Luftwaffe Flakhelferinnen (Female Air Force Anti-Aircraft Auxiliaries):
Generalführerin des Helferinnenkorps der Luftwaffe:
Female Luftwaffe Pilots: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=89686
Nebelabteilung (Female Smoke Troops): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=117283
Bereiterinnen (Female Horse-breakers for the Wehrmacht): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=7502
Organisation Todt Helferinnen: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=168323
And yes, even SS Female Wardresses (Aufseherinnen- See the Holocaust and War Crimes section for much, much more on this): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=42637
* viewtopic.php?f=77&t=135271Women in the Deutsches Rotes Kreuz (German Red Cross
DRK Helferin Identity Cards: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=109335
DRK Helferin Uniforms: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=130348
DRK Nurses: Tropical Uniform: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=129807
* viewtopic.php?f=77&t=190450Women in civilian occupations and duties:
The RADwJ (Young Women’s Labor Corp): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=111057
Women in the Reichspost (German Postal Service):viewtopic.php?f=77&t=116346 viewtopic.php?p=1697049#p1697049
Female Railway Workers: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=128557viewtopic.php?p=1696800#p1696800
Straßenbahn-Schaffnerinnen (Tram Conductresses): viewtopic.php?f=77&t=172603
Women in Civil Defense: viewtopic.php?f=77&t=111453 viewtopic.php?f=77&t=46490viewtopic.php?p=1344014#p1344014viewtopic.php?p=1696137#p1696137NOTE:
The original list of threads was done very quickly. Since I think this may be a helpful index, I've edited it to add further threads as I find them, or as members bring them to my attention. See below for dates when links were added. ~Vikki (7 September 2012)
* Added 7 September 2012.