Sites About Soviet Generals

[AlifRafikKhan]

Is there any sites about full list of Soviet generals in World War II?

Thanks in advance

[HFK]

Hello Alif,
The best site for listing of generals is Steen Ammentopr's site , easily7 found here in the AHF.
Glad I could be of help, Harry

[AlifRafikKhan]

Hi Harry, thank you for your help. Do you mean generals.dk? I know the site but I found there's still lots of generals missing in the database...

[leachjeff]

No, there is no site with a complete list of Soviet Generals during the GPW. The Soviet General Staff has produced an offical list but Soviet researchers have pointed out that it isn't complete and contains inaccurate information. That is, there exists no complete lists at all AFAIK and it might prove impossible to reconstruct one.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Thank you leachjeff...

[igor_verh]

Hello! May be this information will be useful :
List of assigning higher ranks of officers (generals and admirals), 1940-1945 - http://www.rkka.ru/ihandbook.htm - link "Список присвоения высших офицерских званий (генералы и адмиралы) 1940-1945 гг"
Army General (USSR) - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%93%D0% ... 1%D0%A0%29
The commanders of the fronts during the Great Patriotic War - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0% ... 0%BD%D1%8B
List of Soviet and Russian Colonel-Generals - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0% ... 0%BE%D0%B2
The commanders of the Soviet army during World War II - http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0% ... 0%BD%D1%8B
Gallery "Command of the Soviet forces" - http://waralbum.ru/category/people/gene ... _generals/

[Steen Ammentorp]

Hi Harry, thank you for your help. Do you mean generals.dk? I know the site but I found there's still lots of generals missing in the database...

Hi,

My database currently lists 5549 generals (or equivalent kombrigs, brigade commissar etc.) However you say that my list is still missing a lost of generals. I would be most grateful if you would informing of who is missing. I strive to make the database as complete as possible.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Hi Steen,

I've searched at least three Soviet generals name in your site but unfortunately I couldn't found the bio. I forgot the first two, but the last one is Ivan Chernyakhovsky. Maybe my spelling was wrong so it didnt listed on your database?

[leachjeff]

My database currently lists 5549 generals .

Is that 5549 Soviet Generals? If so it would be interesting to know the source. I though I saw an estimate once that there were around 5300 Soviet general officers during the GPW. It sure seems like a lot until you consider that the army fielded over 400 infantry divisions, 100 cavalry divisions and 50 tank divisions along with 60 corps level headquarters and around 60 army headquarters during 1941- 1942. A group of the Cadres Directorate of the Soviet Army led by General A. P. Beloborodov spent 20 years compiling a list of these officers The Military Cadre of the Soviet Government During the Great Patriotic War 1941-1945 but even a list compiled by the Soviet Army for the Soviet leadership appears to be imcomplete. A. A. Maslov in Fallen Soviet Generals discusses the problems with this list at length. What it boilds down to is that the generals censured by Stalin lead to lots of problems. Without full access to the old NKVD files, which doesn't seem possible even today (to find out about the censured generals), and exhaustively searching though 20 - 30 years of Soviet Army records (to see who had their rank reinstated) it will not be possible to produce a complete list. It is probably impossible even then to be certain you haven't some one or more generals.

[Steen Ammentorp]

I've searched at least three Soviet generals name in your site but unfortunately I couldn't found the bio. I forgot the first two, but the last one is Ivan Chernyakhovsky. Maybe my spelling was wrong so it didnt listed on your database?

Hi,

It is a question of how you translitterate the Russian names. In the case of Chernyakhovsky I have translitterated his Russian name Черняховский into Cherniakhovskii. As a rule when searching my site, try using ia instead of ya and skii instead of sky, or try using the alphabetic entry under The Generals. While the spelling might not be exactly the same I am sure that it will enable you to pick the right ones.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Thank you Steen for clearing the matters...

[leachjeff]

Alif while reading internet information about Soviet Generals you should be aware that much of the information is suspect, especially once you get away from the most well known names. Here is an example taken from generals.dk (it is not meant as a criticism of the site)

from generals.dk

Astanin

Andrei Nikitovich, Lieutenant-General (1897 – 1960)
(Андрей Никитович Астанин)

1941 Acting Commander in Chief North-western Front
1943 - 1944 Commanding Officer CXVI Rifle Corps

somewhat more detailed information

05.1941 assistant commander Baltic Special Military District
11.07.1941- ? commander 41st Rifle Corps (interim)
23.07.1941–25.08.1941 commander Luga Defensive Zone*
25.08.1941–16.09.41 commander South Operational Group (Leningrad Front)**
11.41 commander 2nd Neva Operational Group
? - 10.11.43? commander Coastal Operational Group (Leningrad Front)***
16.10.43 promoted to lieutenant general
commander 109th Rifle Corps?
12.1943 commander 116th Rifle Corps
03.44 deputy commander 23rd Army (interim)
11.44 deputy commander 8th Army

* the HQ 41st Rifle Corps might have become the HQ Luga Defensive Zone.
** The Luga Defensive Zone became the South Operational Group.
*** The 2nd Neva OG became the Coastal OG (LF). The Coastal OG was reformed as the 109th Rifle Corps.

The more detailed entry was created by taking his entry in Komkory (This is the semi-offical biographies of Soviet Corps Commanders) and then trying to check the information in the entry. This usually end with you wanting to pull your hair out because you end up with a lot of contradictory information and no way of knowing which is correct.

Note that the statement "1941 Acting Commander in Chief North-western Front" is probably incorrect.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Thank you again, leachjeff...

[Steen Ammentorp]

Hi leachjeff

Just a few comments. Yes I meant 5549 Soviet generals , though mind you that this includes as I said a number of officers who never officially was promoted (because suppression or death) to the rank of general but who held the old equivalent ranks of (Kombrig, Brigade-Engineer etc see: http://www.armchairgeneral.com/rkkaww2/ ... /ranks.htm) and it covers the period 1st Sep. 1939 and 8th Sep. 1945 (Though after the Japanese surrender 2nd Sep I have included this data because a large batch of officers were promoted on this day).

while reading internet information about Soviet Generals you should be aware that much of the information is suspect, especially once you get away from the most well known names.

I would say no more or less that any printed information, as I think you have proved with the detail information from Komkory (I got it but haven't yet had the time to update Astanins entry). I always try to verify the information added to generals from various sources, some of them regarding the soviet generals are listed here http://www.librarything.com/catalog/Gen ... rch=soviet, however as you have stipulated it is often painfully difficult when we are dealing with the Soviet generals.

[leachjeff]

That is a very impressive accomplishment. Just want to warn you that Komkory and Komandarmy usually have pretty general information but it is about the best source for following a general's carrier. I usually use it to construct a framework for an officer under research and then try and find more details.

By the way General Astanin was chosen because it is difficult to find information about his carrier.

Can anymore shed more light on whether or not he served as interim commander of Northwest Front during 1941?