Soviet infantry forces in June 1941: strong or weak?

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Post by Kuniworth » 17 Jun 2006, 09:23

Hello, great info.

About those corps...the corps system was abolished on july 15th(stavka circular 01). Does anyone knows what happened to them after that - did they become field armies or just incorporated into the existing ones?

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Post by konev » 17 Jun 2006, 12:34

Kuniworth,

Your talking about a good time in digging. Give me about a week to track them all down.

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Post by konev » 17 Jun 2006, 12:43

BIGPanzer,

Which "Red Army in June 1941, statistical review" do you have?

You know they came out with a 2nd edition, right?

If yours is hard back, its the 2nd, if its soft cover, you've got the 1st. (Besides, they did a crapping job binding the first; mine fell apart in about 6 months. That's probably why they went with the hard cover in the 2nd).

BTW, you do have the book "Krasnaya Armiya v Pobedakh i Porazheniyakh 1941 - 1945" (The Red Army in VIctory and Defeat 1941 - 1945), right?

600 pages of where the Tomsk Group left off.

Also, they did a Cold War book also. I call them the Tomsk Group because one of the authors, V. I. Golikov, is the head of military instruction at Tomsk State University in Tomsk.

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Post by BIGpanzer » 17 Jun 2006, 18:30

Hi, Konev!
I had the 2nd edition of the book "Red Army in June 1941, statistical review".
Unfortunately, I don't have the book "Krasnaya Armiya v Pobedakh i Porazheniyakh 1941 - 1945" (The Red Army in VIctory and Defeat 1941 - 1945).

Hi, Kuniworth!
As for the Soviet infantry corps. I have the info about the fate of all of them, but I have no time to post this info at the moment. Generally, as I've already mentioned, infantry corps (defeated and preserved) were disbanded in July 1941 because of lack of experienced command staff and equipment for them, only 6 infantry corps (from pre-war 62) remained in December 1941. But the amount of all-arms armies increased from 27 to 58 (16 infantry corps were reclassified as all-arms armies in summer 1941, 19th corps became the 2nd Neva all-arms group, 20th corps became Bryansk Front 14.08.1941, others were disbanded, 6 infantry corps remained: special of Far-Eastern Front, 9th (disbanded 07.05.1942), 26th, 39th, 58th, 69th). Armies usually contained 5-6 infantry divisions only, for operational mobility.
See this table, for example - http://www.soldat.ru/spravka/korpusa_rkka/table1.html

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Post by Kelvin » 27 Jun 2014, 19:06

BIGpanzer wrote:The full list of Soviet infantry divisions, which were defeated during the first months of the war.
This shows the real tragedy of RKKA, when the whole divisions (including many famous and glorified) were lost in hard defensive combats.

Infantry divisions:

2nd Byelorussian, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner, named for M.V. Frunze (10th army, 1st infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – colonel M. Grishin

8th Minsk, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner and the Order of the Labor Red Banner, named for F.E. Dzerzhinsky (10th army, 1st infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – colonel N. Fomin

13th Dagestan (10th army, 5th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – major-general A. Naumov

16th Ulyanovsk, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner, named for V.I. Kikvidze (27th army, 65th infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Tallinn. Commander – major-general I. Lyubovtsev

17th Gorki, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner, named for Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR (13th army, 21st infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Bobruisk. Commander – major-general T. Batsanov

24th Samara-Ulyanovsk, Iron, decorated two times with the Order of the Red Banner (21st army, 21st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – major-general K. Galitsky

27th Omsk, decorated two times with the Order of the Red Banner, named for Italian Proletariat (3rd army, 4th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Grodno. Commander – major-general A. Stepanov

37th Novocherkassk, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner (13th army, 21st infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Lida. Commander – colonel A. Chekharin

38th Morozovo-Donetsk, named for Mikoyan (16th army) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – colonel M. Kirillov

41st (26th army, 6th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Poltava. Commander – major-general G. Mikushev

42nd (13th army, 28th infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Gomel. Commander – major-general I. Lazarenko

46th Dnepropetrovsk (16th army, 32nd infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Smolensk. Commander – major-general A. Filatov

49th, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner (4th army) – lost 07.1941, Mozyr. Commander – colonel K. Vasiliev

55th Kursk (13th army, 47th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Gomel. Commander – colonel D. Ivanyuk

56th Moscow (3rd army, 4th infantry corps) – 06.1941, Grodno. Commander – major-general S. Sakhnov

61st (21st army, 63rd infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Mozyr. Commander – colonel N. Prishchepa

62nd Turkestan (5th army, 15th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Nezhin. Commander – colonel M. Timoshenko

67th (27th army, 65th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Libava. Commander – major-general N. Dedaev

73rd (20th army, 69th infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – colonel A. Akimov

75th (21st army) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – major-general S. Nedvigin

80th, decorated with the Order of Lenin, named for Proletariat of Donbass (6th army, 37th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general V. Prokhorov

85th, decorated with the Order of Lenin (3rd army, 4th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Grodno. Commander – major-general A. Bondovsky

86th Kazan, named for Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Tatar ASSR (10th army, 5th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – major-general M. Zashibaev

87th (5th army, 27th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – major-general F. Alyabushev

89th (19th army, 30th infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – colonel T. Kolesnikov

91st (19th army, 52nd infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – major-general N. Lebedenko

97th (26th army, 6th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Poltava. Commander – colonel P. Zakharov

98th (22nd army, 51st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Vitebsk. Commander – major-general M. Gavrilov

102nd (21st army, 67th infantry corps) – lost o9.1941, Gomel. Commander – colonel P. Gudz

110th (3rd army, 61st infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Gomel. Commander – colonel V. Khlebtsev

112th (22nd army, 51st infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Smolensk. Commander – brigade commander Ya. Adamson

113th (10th army, 5th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – major-general Kh. Alaverdov

116th (26th army) – lost 09.1941, Cherkassy. Commander – colonel Ya. Eremenko

117th (21st army, 66th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – colonel S. Chernyugov

124th (38th army, 27th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Kiev. Commander – major-general F. Sushchy

130th (18th army, 55th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Dnepropetrovsk. Commander – major-general V. Vizzhilin

134th (West front, 25th infantry corps ) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – brigade commander V. Bazarov

135th (40th army, 27th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Konotop. Commander – major-general F. Smekhotvorov

139th (6th army, 37th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – colonel N. Loginov

140th (5th army, 36th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Korosten. Commander – colonel L. Basanets

141st (6th army, 37th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general Ya. Tonkonogov

146th (5th army, 36th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Korosten. Commander – major-general I. Gerasimov

147th (37th army, 7th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Kiev. Commander – colonel I. Mironov

149th (43rd army, 30th infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – major-general F. Zakharov

151st (21st army, 67th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Gomel. Commander – major-general V. Neretin

152nd (20th army, 32nd infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – colonel P. Chernyshev

158th (19th army, 34th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Smolensk. Commander – colonel V. Novozhilov

159th (26th army, 6th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Poltava. Commander – colonel I. Mashchenko

165th (26th army, 64th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Poltava. Commander – colonel I. Zakharevich

166th (19th army, 53rd infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – colonel A. Kholzinev

167th (21st army, 63rd infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Bryansk. Commander – brigade commander V. Rakovsky

170th (24th army, 51st infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – major-general N. Silkin

171st (37th army, 34th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Kiev. Commander – major-general A. Budykho

172nd (13th army, 61st infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Mogilev. Commander – major-general M. Romanov

173rd (26th army, 8th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general S. Verzin

175th (37th army, 64th infantry corps) – lost 09,1941, Kiev. Commander – colonel S. Glovatsky

187th (13th army, 45th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – colonel I. Ivanov

190th (6th army, 49th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – colonel G. Zverev

193rd (5th army, 31st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Priluki. Commander – colonel A. Berestov

195th (5th army, 31st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Priluki. Commander – major-general V. Nesmelov

196th Dnepropetrovsk (26th army, 7th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Cherkassy. Commander – major-general K. Kulikov

197th Kiev (6th army, 49th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – colonel S. Gubin

200th (5th army, 31st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Priluki. Commander – colonel I. Lyudnikov

206th (37th army, 7th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Kiev. Commander – colonel S. Gorshkov

214th (16th army) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – major-general A. Rozanov

228th (5th army, 36th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Nezhin. Commander – colonel A. Ilyuin

229th (19th army, 69th infantry corps) – lost 10.1941, Vyazma. Commander – major-general M. Kozlov

232nd (3rd army, 66th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Mogilev. Commander - unknown

233rd (20th army, 69th infantry corps) – lost 07.1941, Orsha. Commander – colonel G. Kotov

235th (11th army, 41st infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Pskov. Commander – major-general T. Lebedev

Mountain infantry divisions:

28th Mountaineers, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner and the Order of the Labor Red Banner, named for V.M. Azin (37th army) – lost 09.1941, Kiev. Commander – major-general K. Novik

44th Kiev, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner, named for N.A. Shchors (12th army) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general S. Tkachenko

58th (12th army) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general N. Proshkin

60th, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner (12th army) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general N. Salikhov

72nd Turkmenian (6th army, 8th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – major-general P. Abramidze

192nd (12th army, 13th infantry corps) – lost 08.1941, Uman. Commander – colonel A. Zakharchenko.

Infantry brigades:

3rd (27th army, Moonzund archipelago) – lost 08.1941, Saaremaa island. Commander – major P. Gavrilov
In accordance with Steen Ammentrop website The Generals of WWII, Soviet page, commander of 192nd Mountain Rifle division is Mj Gen.P.F. Privalov,( 1939-42) not Col. Zakharchenko, so when this division was destroyed in Aug 1941, exactly who command the division ?

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Re: Soviet infantry forces in June 1941: strong or weak?

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Post by John Hilly » 28 Jun 2014, 16:04

How about 43. Infantry Division destroyed in Karelian Isthmus late August 1941?
"The 1.9 was a spectaculare moment for JR24, as the commander of the Soviet 43rd Division Gen.major Vladimir Kirpitschnikow and the commisar of the division Col Terichov where captured."

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 8#p1261192

With best, J-P :milwink:

Edit: Typo corrected!
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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 17:35

Colonel Zaharchenko A.S. - Commander of 25 RD 14 RC PA Southern Front since March 1941. Defended Odessa. In August 1941 was appointed chief of operations of the PA headquarters.

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 17:51

43 RD did not not lost banner and did not suffer irretrievable losses to be disbanded. The division was not even put in reserve to recruiting and immediately directed to a new area of hostilities. Captivity division commander was not considered the cause of the disband of the division.

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Post by Kelvin » 28 Jun 2014, 17:54

Hi, olia, thank for your data. :)

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 18:02

2nd Byelorussian, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner, named for M.V. Frunze (10th army, 1st infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – colonel M. Grishin

Colonel Grishin M.D. graduated from special courses at the Frunze Military Academy 4.05.1941 and did not return to the 2 RD to June 22, 1941. He was appointed commander of 42 RD

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 18:10

24th Samara-Ulyanovsk, Iron, decorated two times with the Order of the Red Banner (21st army, 21st infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – major-general K. Galitsky

Maj. Gen.Galitsky K.N. - commander of 67 RC 21 A Central Front since July 1941. Seriously wounded at Smolensk battle and evacuated to hospital in Sverdlovsk in the Urals.

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 18:21

49th, decorated with the Order of the Red Banner (4th army) – lost 07.1941, Mozyr. Commander – colonel K. Vasiliev

Colonel Vasiliev K.F. - Commander 49 RD was captured near Minsk 30.06.1941. July 1, 1941 escaped from captivity and came to the location of the Red Army July 11, 1941 by himself. Sent to teaching in courses "Shot"

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 18:51

86th Kazan, named for Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Tatar ASSR (10th army, 5th infantry corps) – lost 06.1941, Bialystok. Commander – major-general M. Zashibaev

correctly - Colonel Zashibalov M.A.

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Post by Kelvin » 28 Jun 2014, 19:11

Hi, olia,thank again for your data on several commanders. Very helpful. :)

There are three motorized troop commanders hope you can help :

25th Tank Division commander : Col.N.M.Nikiforov

29th Tank Division commander : Col.N.P.Studnev

31st Tank Division commander : Col.S.A.Kalikhovich

Those commanders should join the war on the Western Front sector in June 1941

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Post by olia » 28 Jun 2014, 19:38

87th (5th army, 27th infantry corps) – lost 09.1941, Chernigov. Commander – major-general F. Alyabushev

Maj. Gen. Alyabushev F.F. KIA June 25, 1941 near Vladimir-Volynski (Western Ukraine)

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