Russian artillery Id.

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Russian artillery Id.

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Post by Sturm78 » 16 Feb 2009, 19:20

Hi all,

Can anyone positively identify this weapon?
122mm M1910-30 howitzer or 152mm M1909-30.

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 16 Feb 2009, 21:27

Definitely the 122mm. the shield is wrong for the 152mm


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Post by Paul_Atreides » 17 Feb 2009, 02:03

Look at this
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 17 Feb 2009, 22:21

Ooops my bad :oops:

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Post by Befehl227 » 28 Mar 2009, 01:38

Is this a soviet 45mm ATG (M42)?

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respectively a 85mm AAG (M39)?

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 30 Mar 2009, 11:36

The AT gun is a 45mm of some sort but its tricky to decide if its a m1942 or earlier version as we can't see the end of the barrel

The AA gun is a 76mm

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Post by Befehl227 » 31 Mar 2009, 01:55

Bob_Mackenzie wrote:The AT gun is a 45mm of some sort but its tricky to decide if its a m1942 or earlier version as we can't see the end of the barrel

The AA gun is a 76mm
Bob, you are right about the 85mm gun - it looks more like a 76 mm gun. And the 45 mm AT gun is a m37!

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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 31 Mar 2009, 11:22

And the 45 mm AT gun is a m37!
How did you distinguish it from the m42?

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Post by Alanmccoubrey » 31 Mar 2009, 12:59

Bob/Befehl227, Two things about this gun, first it has the spoked wheels. Did they do a spoked wheel M42 ? Second, the gun itself is in full recoil, look at the gap between the barrel and the recuperator cylinder, would we be able to see the end of the M37 barrel in full recoil ? Intriguing isn't it ?
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Post by Bob_Mackenzie » 31 Mar 2009, 14:36

A quick scud around the internet shows no pics of a 42 with spoked wheels but thats to say there were none

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Post by Manuferey » 01 Apr 2009, 00:36

The 76,2 mm AA gun is a M31 with its two-wheel carriage. It was followed by a 4-wheel carriage version as M38.

The German "beute" designation was 7,62 cm Flak M31(r). Some were rebored to 88 mm and became the 7,62/8,8 cm Flak M31(r).

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Post by Sturm78 » 20 Oct 2009, 22:17

Hi all,

I found these images of russian coastal guns. I need your help to Id. the guns.
Images from http://www.odkrywca.pl


Thanks in advance. Sturm78
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Post by Manuferey » 21 Oct 2009, 01:57

The second gun looks like a 75 mm Canet Mle 1891.

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Post by Sturm78 » 21 Oct 2009, 13:33

Thank you very much for your answers, Manuferey and Juha. :D

As for the Russian guns I suppose that the turret will be a MB-2-180 mount and the single gun in open mount a MO-1-180 or a MO-8-180, no??

Have you another wartime photo of these guns in coastal use? Especially of the single gun mount version
What batteries used these guns in the Baltic area in the Second World War?

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