Soviet conscription from the reconquered territories

[KDF33]

Hello,

Does anyone have information about the number of soldiers the Soviets conscripted from the territories they reconquered during their advance from late 1942 to late 1944?

If the information could be broken down by period (i.e. 11.42 - 6.43; 7.43 - 1.44; etc.) this would be even better.

Regards,

KDF

[Paul_Atreides]

http://vif2ne.ru/nvk/forum/0/archive/2433/2433758.htm

[steverodgers801]

Unfortunatly what stastitics the Socviets may have kept would be very unrelieable. In 1937 or so, the leading statistician was shot for accuratly counting the decline of Soviet population after the great famine of 1934 and then Stalin redid the figures.

[KDF33]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for the amazing figures! They tend to confirm that conscription from the recovered territories was essential to the Soviet war effort, at least by 1944. I do however have a question:

The second table has two sets of figures, which translate (using GT) as "Intended human contingents" and "Marching replenishments". My assumption is that the first figure accounts for replenishments coming from the reconquered territories, while the second figure accounts for replenishments coming from rear districts. Is this correct?

Regards,

KDF

[Paul_Atreides]

The second table has two sets of figures, which translate (using GT) as "Intended human contingents" and "Marching replenishments". My assumption is that the first figure accounts for replenishments coming from the reconquered territories, while the second figure accounts for replenishments coming from rear districts. Is this correct?

Regards,

KDF

Yes it is. GT can't correctly translate "призвано" as "call-up".

[KDF33]

About the total mobilized from non-Russian republics, your source gives a total of 4,872,329 mobilized during 1943-5. This post by Art indicates that in September 1942, the Central Asian republics still held 600,000 untapped fully-fit men, as well as 277,000 with limited fitness. The Caucasian republics aren't mentioned, but a quick glance at Wikipedia indicates that they mobilized in total about 2 million men, a figure too large to be an accounting error in Tschadenko's document. This seems to indicate that the prime military manpower of the Caucasus SFSRs had been mobilized by then. This would indicate that a minimum of about 4 million of the 4.9 million non-Russian conscripts of 1943-5 came from the reconquered territories of the Ukraine, Belarus and the Baltic States. Obviously this is a rough guesstimate but it should give an idea of the big picture.

I wonder if you have additional information about 1943, specifically the proportion of the 4 million men from the Russian SFSR that came from the liberated territories, i.e. the North Caucasus, the Russian Donbass, the Rzhev salient and the Smolensk area. Data similar to that found in the second table, but for the first half of 1943, would be helpful.

In any case, thanks for the much-appreciated help.

[Paul_Atreides]

I have not any additional info.

[Art]

Similar question was discussed in an earlier topic:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 9&t=136344

[Art]

Conscription on Ukrainian territory for the Steppe/2 Ukrainian Front:
August 1943 - 8 266 men
Sept - 70 700
Oct - 71 700
Nov - 22 494
Dec - 39 200
January 45 - 21 748
Feb - 23 961
Mar - 108 946
Apr - 138 522
May - 18 170
Jun - 4 205
Jul - 902
Total year - 528 214 men.
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/dou/?docID=113723646
Note a correlation with tempo of advance.

[henryk]

I presume that the "Ukrainian territory" includes former Polish territory. Were ethnic Poles conscripted as well, and to Red Army, Polish Army, or both?

[Art]

I presume that the "Ukrainian territory" includes former Polish territory.

Not in the 2 Ukrainian Front's area. The numbers above pertain only to this front.
Poles would be normally conscripted to the Polish Corps/Army even within 1939 borders IIRC.

[henryk]

Thank you, Art

[steverodgers801]

Poles I believe had to be politically reliable and were not automatically added.

[Art]

2 UF command on personnel situation:

To the Supreme Commander in Chief Marshal of Soviet Union comrade Stalin

During the entire period of offensive operations the front staffs its divisions only with men conscripted from the liberated territory.
Divisions personnel are diluted with local replacements who are qualitatively unsatisfactory and politically unstable.
In order to strengthen battle quality of divisions I ask to send to the front 40 000 men from trained replacements conscripted on the territory of central Russia and Siberia.
In exchange for 40 000 men asked the front will send 63 000 men conscripted on the territory of Moldavian SSR.

Konev, Zakharov, Tevchenkov
7.5.44 No.8271/sh

TsAMO RF, f.240, op.2779, d.1157, l.22 (appendix to the 2 UF war diary)
https://pamyat-naroda.ru/dou/?docID=113723599