Motorized Rifle Division 1940-41

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Motorized Rifle Division 1940-41

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Post by PassandReviewofWW2 » 01 Oct 2016, 19:05

Ref Charles Sharp - 1. Deadly Beginning Soviet Mechanized Corps Tank Divisions
2. Rifle Divisions Formed before June 22, 1941
Red Army unit reorganization compliments differed greatly due to ongoing expansion prior to and after June 22, 1941

Motorized Rifle Division
HQ
Radio Company 3-7 Armd Cars
Telephone Company

3 Motorized Rifle Regiments each with
HQ 3 Quad AAMG
3 Rile Battalions
each 3 Rifle Companies
12 Light Machine Guns 2 Heavy Machine Guns 3 50 mm Mortars
1 Heavy Machine Gun Company 12 HMG(Heavy Machine Guns)
1 Mortar Company 6 82 mm Mortars
1 AA Section 3 Quad AAMG )Anti Aircraft Maxim Machine Guns arranged on Gun Mount)
Regimental Mortar Battery 4 120 mm
Reg AT Guns 6 45 mm
Reg Cannon Company 6 76 mm Field Guns
Reg Truck Company
Reg Light Artillery HQ 3 Quad AAMG 2 Light Battalions each with 1 Howitzer Battery 4 122 mm Howitzers
2 Cannon Batteries 4 76 mm Field Guns
Howitzer Reg
HQ 3 Quad AAMG 2 Light Battalions each with 3 Batteries 4 122 mm Howitzers
1 Medium Battalion 3 Batteries 4 152 mm Artillery

Tank Battalion
HQ 3 Armd Cars
3 Tank Companies each with 3 Platoons 5 Light Tanks 2 HQ Tanks

Recon Battalion
HQ
Tank Company 16 T 37 Tankettes
3 Armd Car Company 13-15 Cars

AT Battalion HQ 3 Batterys each 6 45 mm AT Guns 2 Light Machine Guns

AA Battalion
HQ
2 Light Batteries 4 37 mm AA Guns
1 Med Battery 4 76 mm Air Defense Guns mounted on Carriages model 1938 able to fully traverse and fire limbered or unlimbered


Engineer /Sapper Battalion
HQ 2 Companies 2 HMG
1 Pontoon Company Platoon T 26 Tanks

Division Train
Medical Battalion
Maint Battalion
Truck Battalion

Equip T 26 x 51 T 37 x 16 Armd Cars x 58 Vehicles 1400
Personel 12, 500

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Re: Motorized Rifle Division 1940-41

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Post by Jeff Leach » 05 Oct 2016, 07:18

I would just like to point out the

Charles Sharp - 1. Deadly Beginning Soviet Mechanized Corps Tank Divisions and the rest of his 'Red Army Order of Battle' (I have the whole series) are somewhat dated now. There is enough war-time Soviet material available that the series could use a serious update. If you can't read even a little Russian then series is probably one of the best of the lot.

Take a look at 'Soviet Army Order of Battle in WWII June to December 1941' on google books. It is really cheap. If it had better maps it would be brillant.


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Post by PassandReviewofWW2 » 06 Oct 2016, 18:36

The establishment orders are best guesses, even today that fog of war still exists.

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Post by Jeff Leach » 06 Oct 2016, 20:23

I was referring to the actual Soviet TOE's are available. The actual personel and equipment strenght of an individual unit are open to question. In recent years some 3,500,000 Soviet wartime documents have been released so it is possible to get a much better idea than was possible before.

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Post by PassandReviewofWW2 » 06 Oct 2016, 22:01

Exactly , this interesting topic needs a reference point to dis spell old information that has not been changed one iota in 80 Years.

Other interesting subject matter is that of Truck Conversions using GAZ 4 to mount a 76mm Gun, on back, for fire support Artillery 1936 refereed to as the SU 12 along with the IAG 10 mounting the 76mm Model 1938 Air Defense Gun

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Post by PassandReviewofWW2 » 10 Oct 2016, 18:51

The big question is are there any actual NKO Official printed establishments on Soviet Formations in existence?????

Can any of the establishments shown be proven that they are not just figments of Historical Conjecture, considered relevant for reasons of comparison standards , basing such conclusions on General Military concepts that were thought , being adopted and used , when if fact , such information is inconclusive compared to the Reports and First hand Accounts, from both German and Russian records from actual battle survivors, that recall specific details in the field that conflict with the establishments as shown as Official Versions???

After reading recently released Historical Accounts, not dramatized stories, discrepancies do appear, collating the wide scope of all the avail information , to determine what establishments other than the establishment of numbers was used remains to be explained

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