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Gen. Brödis (Estonia)

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 23 Nov 2003, 11:25

Looking info on Gen. Brödis from Estonia.

So far I know:
- could speak German, English, Russian. French, Italian and Estonian.
- arrested together with Estonian defence min. Gen. Lajdoner
- father German,
- lived in Germany for several years,
- in Paris attended General-staff's Academia.
- he was executed together with his Adj. Cpt. Rüberg on 21.9.1942 in Norilsk (sp) Jail/Prison Camp.

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Post by nublu » 24 Nov 2003, 17:34

Hi!

Probably you mean General Major Herbert Brede (Aprill 25th, 1888 - October 6th, 1942). And his adjutants name was Major Riiberg. Sry, can't say you now his first name and datums...

His last post in Estonian Army was commander of 3rd Division. And as it's HQ was in Tallinn, he was also head of Tallinn Garrison. When Estonia was incorporated into Soviet Union, and Estonian army included as 22nd Territorial Corps into Red Army, he was nominated as head of artillery of the Corps. Until was arrested, and later executed...

As mentioned, he was artillery officer in WWI, and also during the War of Independence. Yes, he studied in Ecole Superieure de Guerre. Didn't saw any mentioning of living in Germany in his brief CV. Was also giving lectures in Estonian Higher Military School.

Do you need some more info? What kinda??

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Post by nublu » 24 Nov 2003, 17:46

And BTW - Laidoner was not the Minister of Defence. He was Commander of Armed Forces.

Minister of Defence was Paul Lill.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 24 Nov 2003, 19:28

Thanks for the help!

I found his name in memories of Austro-Slovenian cummunist, who was imprisoned in soviet GULAG's before, during and after WWII.

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Post by Tapani K. » 24 Nov 2003, 20:18

According to http://www.okupatsioonimuuseum.ee Major Nikolai-Aleksander Riiberk was executed in Norilsk on October 6th 1942. Riiberk was born July 27th 1900.

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Post by K.Kocjancic » 24 Nov 2003, 20:19

Thanks!

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Post by nublu » 25 Nov 2003, 13:31

I found his name in memories of Austro-Slovenian cummunist, who was imprisoned in soviet GULAG's before, during and after WWII.
What did he write about them? Where he met them? Brede and Riiberk were both inprisoned with other high rank Estonian officers in Norilsk. And executed together.

Did this communist give some details about their inprisonment or execution? Probably there is no translation of this book avaible anywhere...

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Post by Dr Eisvogel » 21 Oct 2014, 16:36

nublu wrote:
I found his name in memories of Austro-Slovenian cummunist, who was imprisoned in soviet GULAG's before, during and after WWII.
What did he write about them? Where he met them? Brede and Riiberk were both inprisoned with other high rank Estonian officers in Norilsk. And executed together.

Did this communist give some details about their inprisonment or execution? Probably there is no translation of this book avaible anywhere...

thnx

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Hi Toomas,

it seems there is the English translation of the book.

Karlo Štajner: Seven thousand days in Siberia, New York : Farrar/Straus/Giroux, 1988.
http://jlc-web.uaa.alaska.edu/client/as ... an+(Roman)

Štajner has a chapter about the death of gen. Brede.

Here, in Croatian language edition it is on pp. 212-222, "Smrt generala Bredisa [Death of general Brede]".
https://www.scribd.com/doc/47489437/Sta ... a-u-Sibiru

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Re: Gen. Brödis (Estonia)

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Post by ExYugoslav » 20 Nov 2019, 15:26

K.Kocjancic wrote:
23 Nov 2003, 11:25
Looking info on Gen. Brödis from Estonia.

So far I know:
- could speak German, English, Russian. French, Italian and Estonian.
- arrested together with Estonian defence min. Gen. Lajdoner
- father German,
- lived in Germany for several years,
- in Paris attended General-staff's Academia.
- he was executed together with his Adj. Cpt. Rüberg on 21.9.1942 in Norilsk (sp) Jail/Prison Camp.

Regards,
Kocjo
Im new on this forum. A few lines about gen. Brödis from Estonia, wrote Yugoslav communist Karlo Štajner, who was in the same prison room with the general, at the day, he was executed. Karlo survived the gulag and came back to Yugoaslavia in the 50s. He wrote a book 7000 days in Syberia, i think it is translated also in english, original is called 7000 dni v Sibiriji. The title of book is because he survived 7000 days in gulags and Stalin prisons.

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