Equipment of Soviet tank divisions June 1941
Unfortunately, the tank situation in the Odessa Special Military district isn't in my area of expertise.. but I know this:
2 Mechanized Corps:
11 Tank Division
16 Tank Division
15 Motorized Division
18 Mechanized Corps:
44 Tank Division
47 Tank Division
218 Motorized Division
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I don't have specific figures on me at the moment, but 18 MC was indeed a significantly weaker unit than 2 MC.
2 Mechanized Corps:
11 Tank Division
16 Tank Division
15 Motorized Division
18 Mechanized Corps:
44 Tank Division
47 Tank Division
218 Motorized Division
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I don't have specific figures on me at the moment, but 18 MC was indeed a significantly weaker unit than 2 MC.
Thanks Qvist for the mopre precise numbers. Do you happen to know how many of these tanks were serviceable?
As for T-28s, I saw photos of some of these tanks captured by Romanian troops and I thought it may have been in the initial phase of operations in 1941, but as it seems that there weren't any of them in Bessarabia, probably it happened later, in the Ukraine. Was the T-28 still in use in 1942?
As for T-28s, I saw photos of some of these tanks captured by Romanian troops and I thought it may have been in the initial phase of operations in 1941, but as it seems that there weren't any of them in Bessarabia, probably it happened later, in the Ukraine. Was the T-28 still in use in 1942?
Yes, the July figures interest me very much. Please post them.
Btw, this is the photo of the T-28 I was referring to. It was taken in the center of Bucharest on 4 April 1944, after the first US bombing raid that year. The photo is the Romanian version of Signal magazine.
Btw, this is the photo of the T-28 I was referring to. It was taken in the center of Bucharest on 4 April 1944, after the first US bombing raid that year. The photo is the Romanian version of Signal magazine.
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Equipment situation - 2 Mechanized Corps - as of 20 July 1941:
11 Tank Division
10 KV-1
46 T-34
120 BT(20 tanks servicable)
5 T-26
47 Medium armored cars
23 Light armored cars
71 Tractors
983 Trucks and other special vehicles
17 Cars
16 Tank Division
40 BT
55 T-26
4 Flamethrower tanks
34 Medium armored cars
14 Light armored cars
16 Tractors
856 Trucks and other special vehicles
15 Motorized Division
161 BT(75 tanks servicable)
14 Medium armored cars
28 Light armored cars
122 Tractors
Equipment situation - 18 Mechanized Corps - as of 1 August 1941:
47 Tank Division
15 BT
7 T-26
44 76.2mm Divisional guns
4 76.2mm Regimental guns
5 45mm AT guns
8 37mm AA guns
18 82mm mortars
27 50mm mortars
39 Tank Division
2 BT
12 T-26
8 152mm howitzers
4 76.2mm AA guns
28 76.2mm Divisional guns
8 76.2mm Regimental guns
25 45mm AT guns
8 37mm AA guns
11 82mm mortars
33 50mm mortars
218 Motorized Division
26 BT
4 152mm Howitzers
17 122mm Howitzers
16 76.2mm Divisional guns
4 76.2mm Regimental guns
8 37mm AA guns
18 82mm mortars
27 50mm mortars
11 Tank Division
10 KV-1
46 T-34
120 BT(20 tanks servicable)
5 T-26
47 Medium armored cars
23 Light armored cars
71 Tractors
983 Trucks and other special vehicles
17 Cars
16 Tank Division
40 BT
55 T-26
4 Flamethrower tanks
34 Medium armored cars
14 Light armored cars
16 Tractors
856 Trucks and other special vehicles
15 Motorized Division
161 BT(75 tanks servicable)
14 Medium armored cars
28 Light armored cars
122 Tractors
Equipment situation - 18 Mechanized Corps - as of 1 August 1941:
47 Tank Division
15 BT
7 T-26
44 76.2mm Divisional guns
4 76.2mm Regimental guns
5 45mm AT guns
8 37mm AA guns
18 82mm mortars
27 50mm mortars
39 Tank Division
2 BT
12 T-26
8 152mm howitzers
4 76.2mm AA guns
28 76.2mm Divisional guns
8 76.2mm Regimental guns
25 45mm AT guns
8 37mm AA guns
11 82mm mortars
33 50mm mortars
218 Motorized Division
26 BT
4 152mm Howitzers
17 122mm Howitzers
16 76.2mm Divisional guns
4 76.2mm Regimental guns
8 37mm AA guns
18 82mm mortars
27 50mm mortars
Hello!
Here is what info I have.
There were total in RKKA (22 June, 1941) - 593 KV-1; 84 KV-2; 59 T-35; 1383 T-34; 481 T-28; 9665 T-26 all modifications, 594 BT-2; 6298 BT-5 + BT-7; 704 BT-7M; 2331 T-37; 1129 T-38; 233 T-40; 2376 T-27; 3258 BA-6 + BA-10; 1899 BA-20; ~ 300 B-3 (armored carrier).
As for T-28: total - 481, among them - 39 at repair and ammunition depots, 89 in Leningrad military district, 57 in Baltic special military district, 63 in West special military district, 215 in Kiev special military district and 10 in Volga military district.
Best regards, BIGpanzer
Here is what info I have.
There were total in RKKA (22 June, 1941) - 593 KV-1; 84 KV-2; 59 T-35; 1383 T-34; 481 T-28; 9665 T-26 all modifications, 594 BT-2; 6298 BT-5 + BT-7; 704 BT-7M; 2331 T-37; 1129 T-38; 233 T-40; 2376 T-27; 3258 BA-6 + BA-10; 1899 BA-20; ~ 300 B-3 (armored carrier).
As for T-28: total - 481, among them - 39 at repair and ammunition depots, 89 in Leningrad military district, 57 in Baltic special military district, 63 in West special military district, 215 in Kiev special military district and 10 in Volga military district.
Best regards, BIGpanzer
Hmm.. I haven't checked the figures for all the tanks yet but I noticed that the figure for T-34s is a bit high. By 22.6.41, the Red Army had received only 1226 T-34s -- of which, 967 tanks were allocated in the western military districts. Can you provide a more detailed breakup of the unit or district dislocation of these tanks that amounts to 1383 tanks?There were total in RKKA (22 June, 1941) - 593 KV-1; 84 KV-2; 59 T-35; 1383 T-34; 481 T-28; 9665 T-26 all modifications, 594 BT-2; 6298 BT-5 + BT-7; 704 BT-7M; 2331 T-37; 1129 T-38; 233 T-40; 2376 T-27; 3258 BA-6 + BA-10; 1899 BA-20; ~ 300 B-3 (armored carrier).
As for T-28: total - 481, among them - 39 at repair and ammunition depots, 89 in Leningrad military district, 57 in Baltic special military district, 63 in West special military district, 215 in Kiev special military district and 10 in Volga military district.
Hi, VDV!
Well, in this case I am absolutely shure for every my word, because the info is from the archives.
So, on 22 June 1941 - 1383 T-34 total: 388 at the repair bases, factory and army depots, testing areas (I have also the info about the amount of T-34s at every repair base, depot and so on on 22 June 1941, but this will take a lot of time to write) + 8 in Leningrad Military District (MD) + 50 in Baltic MD + 266 in West Special MD + 561 in Kiev Special MD + 50 in Odessa MD + 5 in Moscow MD + 23 in Volga MD + 16 in Orel MD + 16 in Kharkov MD (total - 1383, please check )
I also have the info about the amount of all types of Soviet tanks in tank and mechanized divisions (22.06.1941), but, unfortunately, the info is not about all divisions.
Regards, BIGpanzer
Well, in this case I am absolutely shure for every my word, because the info is from the archives.
So, on 22 June 1941 - 1383 T-34 total: 388 at the repair bases, factory and army depots, testing areas (I have also the info about the amount of T-34s at every repair base, depot and so on on 22 June 1941, but this will take a lot of time to write) + 8 in Leningrad Military District (MD) + 50 in Baltic MD + 266 in West Special MD + 561 in Kiev Special MD + 50 in Odessa MD + 5 in Moscow MD + 23 in Volga MD + 16 in Orel MD + 16 in Kharkov MD (total - 1383, please check )
I also have the info about the amount of all types of Soviet tanks in tank and mechanized divisions (22.06.1941), but, unfortunately, the info is not about all divisions.
Regards, BIGpanzer
Hi BIGpanzer:
2 tanks - 43 TD / 19 MC
38 tanks - 10 TD / 15 MC
34 tanks - 37 TD / 15 MC
140 tanks - 8 TD / 4 MC
173 tanks - 32 TD / 4 MC
100 tanks - 12 TD / 8 MC
If we're both using data from archival sources, why is there a disparity in our figures? Some of your numbers I do agree with -- such as the number of T-34s in the Western Special military district -- my figure is also 266 tanks. I also agree for the Baltic Special military district -- 50 T-34s in 5 TD of 3 MC. So, as you can see, some of our figures coincide and some do not.
regards,
VDV
All of my info is also from archival sources so I too am certain of the validity of the numbers I provide. Lets take for example the Kiev Special Military district since it had the most T-34s of any district. Your figure for T-34s in KSMD is 561 while I only came up with 487 for 22.6.41:Well, in this case I am absolutely shure for every my word, because the info is from the archives.
So, on 22 June 1941 - 1383 T-34 total: 388 at the repair bases, factory and army depots, testing areas (I have also the info about the amount of T-34s at every repair base, depot and so on on 22 June 1941, but this will take a lot of time to write) + 8 in Leningrad Military District (MD) + 50 in Baltic MD + 266 in West Special MD + 561 in Kiev Special MD + 50 in Odessa MD + 5 in Moscow MD + 23 in Volga MD + 16 in Orel MD + 16 in Kharkov MD (total - 1383, please check Smile )
2 tanks - 43 TD / 19 MC
38 tanks - 10 TD / 15 MC
34 tanks - 37 TD / 15 MC
140 tanks - 8 TD / 4 MC
173 tanks - 32 TD / 4 MC
100 tanks - 12 TD / 8 MC
If we're both using data from archival sources, why is there a disparity in our figures? Some of your numbers I do agree with -- such as the number of T-34s in the Western Special military district -- my figure is also 266 tanks. I also agree for the Baltic Special military district -- 50 T-34s in 5 TD of 3 MC. So, as you can see, some of our figures coincide and some do not.
regards,
VDV