Waffen SS Camo

[Cristianir]

Hi WikingSoldat,
can you send me pics of WSS camo to my mail adress?
Thanks!

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[AlifRafikKhan]

What kind of camo is used by August Zingel?

Source: Doug Banks collection

[Arto O]

Hi,
Could it be this one: first type "plane tree". What makes it a little bit confusing is that he is wearing camouflage face mask hanging over his chest.
Source: Andrew Steven & Peter Amodio: Waffen-SS uniforms in colour photographs. EXCELLENT book.
Cheers Arto

Camo

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[Arto O]

From the 1977 frontpage of HIAG calender.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Is this SS Platanenmuster wearing by Sepp Dietrich?

Source: Doug Banks collection FB

[John G.]

Is this SS Platanenmuster wearing by Sepp Dietrich?

Source: Doug Banks collection FB

Yes, that's Dietrich!
John G.

[AlifRafikKhan]

Thank you John, but what I meant is the camo pattern weared by Sepp. Is it Platanenmuster?

[Arto O]

Hi AlifrafikKhan,
Do you have any examples of this "Platanenmuster" camouflage? I have never heard about it before.
I also wanted to ask about this model. The figures looks too "squarish" to me.

And this one?

[Ian Hulley]

Do you have any examples of this "Platanenmuster" camouflage? I have never heard about it before.

Known as 'Plane Tree' camouflage in English, alongside Oak A & B the most commonly seen early/mid war camouflage scheme.

The bottom photo is of 'Palm Tree' pattern, the double Totenkopf tabs would date this shot to no later than 1940.

Ian

[Arto O]

Thanks Ian,
There is always something new to learn.
With best regards
Arto

[Sewer King]

. . . I also wanted to ask about this model. The figures looks too "squarish" to me.

This pattern is described below. From a standard reference guide on SS camouflage wear, widely cited and recommended in this Forum:

• Beaver, Michael D., with Borsarello, J.F. Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen-SS: A Photographic Reference. (Schiffer Military History / Schiffer Publishing, 1995), pages 20, 123

Beaver & Borsarello. "Camouflage Uniforms of the Waffen-SS: A Photographic Reference." (Schiffer, 1995) page 123

Plane Tree (SS-VT Lateral variant)

Date: 1938-1940
Print: manual screening
Production: helmet covers, smocks

This scarce pattern was the first model to incorporate the later spotted-type appearance. This design replaced the earlier Block pattern [worn by SS-VT] and was in essence a more compacted version of that pattern. Three anthrasol dyes produced the four colors on this fabric. The tones used on this design were essentially the same as on all prewar patterns. There were three basic colors for each side (spring and fall).

• Spring: Dark Green, Leaf green (tint), Brown ground
  Fall: Dark brown, Leaf green (brown tint), Brown ground

This pattern was intended for clothing use only and therefore, carried no associated numbers as with other Plane Tree styles. The name was derived from the lateral effect of the print when viewed horizontally.

Excellent as this guidebook is, it notes single examples of other SS camouflage patterns that have not been positively identified, beyond the well-known varieties.

What modern spotted camouflage patterns resembling those of the Waffen-SS have recently been worn? Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Egypt, and of course modern-day Germany (flecktarn). Any others? Possibly some Iraqi and PLO use after the Egyptians?

-- Alan

[Arto O]

Thanks Sewer King,
Now seeing it in colours, it is different than in black and white, where the "squares" seems to be more "pronounced" (sorry, is this a correct word in english)?
With best regards
Arto

[Sewer King]

You're welcome. Yes, "pronounced" is correct in English for this meaning.

I think it is because the photo is a scan of what looks like a half-tone printing which may even have faded. If we saw an original photo print, the contrasts in the camo pattern would be sharper. For example, the chinstrap of his helmet should be a dark leather, but looks faded here.

The cropped color scan of the helmet cover is slightly off in color from its source photo in Beaver's book. That photo itself also probably differs from the original seen directly.

By the way, it seems that Japan's Self-Defense Forces have adopted a spotted camouflage uniform as seen worn by their battalion that was in Iraq. It looks similar to the modern German ones and others, and would have entered service after the American-style "woodland" camo they wore in the 1980s-90s.

-- Alan

[AlifRafikKhan]

Need confirmation: Is Vinzenz Kaiser wearing SS-Eichenlaubmuster spring-summer or autumn-winter variant? From Michael D. Miller collection on Facebook

[AlifRafikKhan]

Norwegian officers from the Wiking Division wearing the autumn/winter reversible camouflage uniforms in the late of 1943. In the middle (fourth from the left) Olav Jøntvedt, artist from Porsgrunn.

Hi, what kind of camos these men are wearing?

Source: http://5sswiking.tumblr.com/post/114769 ... g-division