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Post by NY Marine » 02 Oct 2007, 05:03

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Post by John G. » 03 Oct 2007, 00:08

NY Marine, Sir,
I'm surprised there's only two sets of loops.....apparently he worn only his 1st Cl. Iron Cross 1914 & the 1939 Clasp....I would have expected loops for the Wound Badge....was the Wound Badge "on the tunic" and I can't see the loops or pinned directly on? Stumme would have worn all three (and could have worn his 1st Cl. Baltic Cross if he chose).
No matter, I'm convinced of it's originality and provenance....and that it is Stumme's Afrika tunic......
Privileged to have played a small roll in it's recognition and "story".......Grand Dad didn't bring home any other souvenirs, did he? Maybe you have his Knight's Cross kicking around somewhere.....(finding the name was lucky, enough......)
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Post by NY Marine » 03 Oct 2007, 00:25

The wife and I are actually going to her dad's house this weekend. You've sparked the family's interest. My father-in-law is going to pull out items that his father brought to his house over the years. We'll need your assistance in identifying the items. We'll post more soon, depending on what we find.

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Post by William Kramer » 03 Oct 2007, 02:44

NY Marine wrote:The wife and I are actually going to her dad's house this weekend. You've sparked the family's interest. My father-in-law is going to pull out items that his father brought to his house over the years. We'll need your assistance in identifying the items. We'll post more soon, depending on what we find.
Well this can only get better.

Can't wait to see more!

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#35

Post by CharlieB » 03 Oct 2007, 02:45

Thanks to everyone who played a part in helping to identify the tunic's owner. Again, Special Thanks to NY Marine, my Nephew In-law. In the future, should anyone wish to communicate in private please address your inquiries to me.

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Post by NY Marine » 03 Oct 2007, 02:50

Is this the device that would go above the Iron Cross on Gen'l Stumme's tunic?
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#37

Post by CharlieB » 03 Oct 2007, 04:10

As too the Wound Badge ever being seen on the tunic. I do not ever recall seeing it on the uniform.There are no other loop holes or pinholes in the tunic where the badge would have been worn.

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Post by John G. » 03 Oct 2007, 07:46

Yes, this would go above the Iron Cross on the pocket.
Incidently.... this is a very scarce version of a 1939 Clasp with scalloped edges to the 1939 box....only the earliest issues were made this way. It's worth considerably more than the normal version would be. THIS IS GETTING BETTER!
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Post by edw52 » 03 Oct 2007, 08:04

Yes this is turning out to be a very interesting thread!

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Post by William Kramer » 03 Oct 2007, 16:09

NY Marine wrote:Is this the device that would go above the Iron Cross on Gen'l Stumme's tunic?
Hello again,

Yes, this is a first class spange, meaning he got the WW2 Iron Cross first class as well. This is a very nice 1st pattern in tombak and is worth about $500.00 alone.

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Post by Laurence Strong » 03 Oct 2007, 17:37

Glad it's all working out :)

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Post by NTZ » 04 Oct 2007, 00:24

Nice 1st pattern spange. They are rare indeed. I was lucky to get one still on the tunic.

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Post by CharlieB » 04 Oct 2007, 04:22

John, Attached are some pitures of other items I have in my posession. The binocuars were stolen years ago, only the case survives. It is missing a buckel on one side . Can replacements be found? The Mauser and holster were my dad's brother in-law and he got them in Italy. The pictures are of a distant cousin who served somewhere in Africa. Not sure where.
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Post by John G. » 04 Oct 2007, 16:26

Nice pistol, thou not a luger......the shoulder holster may be a postwar addition (Commercial ones were sometimes used...but I doubt this one was.....)
The pictures certianly are cherished personal views.....
The Binocular Case is JAPANESE WW2......how your relative "acquired it" is unknown.....but it's definately a WW 2 Japanese field Glasses (Binoc.) Case. You'd never find the correct buckle- and most "Jap" stuff (respectfully meant) is battlefield damaged.....best to leave it as is.....probably how it was brought home.
Keep digging and check any other relatives from that time period to see if they have anything......this stuff is "nice" but more the typical "GI pickup" type stuff.....but I guess you shouldn't complain too much (w/the tunic and all......)
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Post by NY Marine » 06 Oct 2007, 20:38

Here are some additional uniform items that were at my wife's father's house. They belonged to the soldier that brought back Gen'l Stumme's tunic. The Silver Star was awarded to him for actions at St. Vith.
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