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Uniform patterns

Postby Torvald on 18 Feb 2003 16:51

Does anyone know where I can find a pattern from which to make the Waffen SS panzer wrap jackets? I'd dearly love to have one of the good repro's out there from some place like At The Front, but little things like the mortgage payment seem to get in the way. Wife is narrow minded about things like that. She does however sew quite well.
Any, I say again ANY help or tips would be appreciated

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Postby Brig on 18 Feb 2003 18:31

whoa.....I wouldn't know how to go about obtaining one. Maybe from those guys who make the repros?

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Postby Torvald on 19 Feb 2003 02:01

We...lll... Asked a couple of them about that possibility. I think once they stopped laughing they answered "Nope." They told me that if I wanted a pattern, I could buy one (a repro jacket) and make my own off it. Apparently they work off original garments. Jhanke (sp?) in Germany makes stuff for Bill Bureau's Militaria, and they HAVE the original patterns.
Hmmm... Haven't tried them yet... Wonder if they have a web site...

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Postby dirtysanchez84 on 19 Feb 2003 15:15

What a cool idea...please post if you if you find some

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Postby Torvald on 19 Feb 2003 17:16

I've been looking for this for a couple of months now. Couple of reasons.

1. I don't have $447+S&H for the Michael Wittmann set from At The Front.
I don't even have $150 for one of the cheaper repros with no insignia.

(I'd feel a BIT iffy about wearing a Knights Cross, anyway, not having earned one. Or does that sound stupid? It seems kind of like wearing a Congressional Medal of Honor on a repro uniform would. Just, somehow, not RIGHT. Disrespectful in some way.)

2. Aside from being a history Buff who lists Michael Wittmann among his hero's, I'm also a science fiction fan. Some friends and I are working up an Alternate History presentation for a Science Fiction Convention based around the "30th Waffen SS Panzer Division 'William Wallace'" which takes place sometime in the mid 21st Century. We've found an unusual geometric camouflage pattern fabric for the uniforms. Silly, huh?

3. Justifying why one wants something like this (a Waffen SS Panzer uniform) is a lot like justifying why one wants ANYTHING one doesn't truly need to survive. Why ask yourself why? Toys is toys, right?

The Wife Person is going to get a software called "Dress Shop 4.0" in the near future. We're going to see if we can make up a pattern on that which coes as close as possible. Not perfect, not "real/accurate" but something. Any info anyone has that might be useful (Like measurements off a REAL Panzer Wrap and trousers) would be deeply appreciated. The actual repro makers are very uncooperative about handing out info. Can't blame them, I guess. Sort of shooting themselves in the foot.
I have seen a pattern for a couple of Wehrmacht infantry tunics. Both are for the single breasted type, one early (M1939?), the other the late model "british Battle Dress style(M1943)". Frustrating. So close, but yet so far...

I dealt with what we called "costume Nazi's" a lot when we did Renaissance Faires/the Society for Creative Anachronism. People who would nit-pick you to death on minute details of your costume: "Oh, you sewed it on a MACHINE..." or "That fabric isn't authentic. The print (or weave) isn't exactly period." or "They didn't have woven trim exactly like that." or "The sleeves aren't supposed to be quite that long." ad nauseum.
Excuse me, I have a life outside whatever hobby I am pursuing at the moment. I am trying. Give me a break here?

Thanks, guys. I'll try not to go on like this in the future.
(coffee FIRST, THEN post messages...)

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