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Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby gyuresz on 15 Aug 2012 18:22

Can anyone help with informations about Austro-Hungarian war graves in Diyarbakır? I know that there have been at least a few military burials of Austro-Hungarian soldiers - and even that of a field chaplain - in the city. Are those graves still to be found somewhere? Maybe Tosun has some informations about them?...

Thanks for any help,
György

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby Tosun Saral on 18 Aug 2012 15:04

Kedves György Unfortunately I dont know. Nobody knows even the Hungarian Embassy in Ankara asks me. It weas a very hard time those years. Peter Jung only mentions a few names in his book buriedin Jerusalem.

Recently I found a document send to Hungarian Mission in Turkey from Turkish Foreign Departmet on Feb. 3rd 1925 mentioning the names of 6 artillery soldiers buried in graveyards in Istanbul. 4 of them were Hungarians


Adı Soyadı died grave in Nationality
August Friedrich George 15 .7.1915 Şişli Kağıthane Macar
Oscar Prich Ganer 25 .8.1915 british garveyard Macar
Henri Bayer 13 .5.1916 British Avustrian
Franz Sorgan 7.10.1918 British Avustrian
Karl Hau 16. 6.1917 British Macar
Felix Barlzier 3. 1.1919 Bri,tish Macar
There is also an unknown hungarian artillerist buried at the garden of old German Embassy in İstanbul
If ı reach other information I will let know you.

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby Tanzania on 19 Aug 2012 07:19

On this German page are different names in different countries. Maybe it helps.

http://www.weltkriegsopfer.de/grabsuche ... &s_land=52

Is Diyarbakir in Jerusalem?

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby history1 on 19 Aug 2012 11:07

Tanzania wrote:[...] Is Diyarbakir in Jerusalem?

I assume the answer is no: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diyarbak%C4%B1r

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby gyuresz on 19 Aug 2012 14:32

Sevgili Tosun,

Thank you for the reply. Unfortunately, Peter Jung also says in his book that he does not have any informations about those Austrian graves in Diyarbakir. But that was in 1992, so I hoped that there were some progress in the case since...

The list of the soldiers buried in Istanbul is very interesting, not the least because all names, even those marked as Macar, sound completely German/Austrian. Is it possible for you to send me a copy of the orginial document?

Now while we are talking about war graves: in the time of the general retreat from the Palestine front, in the last days of September 1918, there have been not a few massacres executed by Lawrence's Beduins on the retreating Ottoman - and together with them, German and Austro-Hungarian - forces. It happened among others at Dera'a, Mafrak and Tafas. Those hundreds or thousands of killed must have been buried in mass graves in the vicinity of those places. Do you know about the exinstence of such mass graves - marked or unmarked - in Transjordan, either in Jordan or Syria?

Thank you,
György

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby Tosun Saral on 20 Aug 2012 10:14

Kedves György The original document is in the archice of my younger son Emre Saral who is an expert on Turkish-Hungarian relations. he is now at Budapest for 9 months for researches at hungarian archives. For that reason I can not send you the original document
I am finished to write my new book "Çanakkale, Sina, Filistin cephelerinde Avusturya Macaristan Topçuları" (Austria Hungarian Artillery Formations at Dardanelles, Sina and Palastina) I searched for my book also war graves of those nable mytries sacrified their lives for Turkey. But no trace. If ı have a friend in Diyarbakır ı will ask him to search for us.
The book will be the first book about KUK formations in Turkey. On the other hand ı wrote an article at the magazine Çanakkale 1915 march issue about the artillery;
http://www.turkmacar.org.tr/index.php/g ... ataryalari
cheers
Tosun saral
Co President Turkish Hungarian Friendship Society in Ankara

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby gyuresz on 20 Aug 2012 10:54

Sevgili Tosun,

Thank you very much! I would be very interested to see your book when published. I hope that you will announce it on this forum.

Regards,
György

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Re: Austrian war graves in Diyarbakır?

Postby Tosun Saral on 20 Aug 2012 18:41

Sure. I will do. The book contains Jung, Pomiankowski, Kress, von Sanders and memories of many Turkish officers. :D

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