Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 12 Jan 2013 19:39

Update the 1909 Period Uniforms. Including the 1876 Dress buttons used on the Colored Officer's tunic

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 13 Jan 2013 02:40

Correction to this Plate 45: Which illustrates medical officers in the 1905-08. This 1905 Austrian publication shows the medical officer with shoulder boards, displaying the same embroidered 'snake & branch' as supposed to be on the collars for the period (1876-1908). So this may be a later (1905-08) variation. As other aspects of the uniform have also been simplified, as the 1876 uniforms were highly elaborate, and expensively embroidered. It appears by the turn of the century began to get plainer, with simplified insignia etc. being used.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 13 Jan 2013 12:08

New added Plate 16A M1909 Dress Uniforms

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Renumbering of Plates 16B, 16C

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 13 Jan 2013 23:20

These two plates have been updated: Added special white tunic to Place Guard (1909-18):

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Revised Chief Firemen's Uniform

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This is an excellent picture of the Firemen Regt. in WW1

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 14 Jan 2013 12:53

This is a new Plate 57: These are illustrated from Nicolle's Ottoman Army, picturing the Afghan Prince (1917), wearing an Ottoman General's uniform; the Kurdish irregular (which in the Nicolle's illustration wears a grey Army coat, however typically the issue greatcoat was field brown, and the outdated earlier pattern (1876-1908), was dark blue - which is the version I have chosen for this figure). Finally, the unique - Mevlevi volunteers with their high dervish camel hair fez, and green turban wraps.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 14 Jan 2013 17:07

This is a new plate looking at the uniforms 1840-50, as well the typical paint scheme for Ottoman guns:

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The large 'half-moon' shoulder boards seem to have only been used for a few years, and were then replaced by large brass shoulder-scales - following European military fashions (which by the Crimean war had fallen out of use).

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 14 Jan 2013 22:22

Updated Plate 36: changes to details of the M1909 Officer's blue uniform. Only senior officers had a additional gold cording to collar/cuffs:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 15 Jan 2013 17:27

ukturkcollector wrote:This is a new plate looking at the uniforms 1840-50, as well the typical paint scheme for Ottoman guns:

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The large 'half-moon' shoulder boards seem to have only been used for a few years, and were then replaced by large brass shoulder-scales - following European military fashions (which by the Crimean war had fallen out of use).


I have done some more work on the field gun - This is based on the image below:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 15 Jan 2013 17:30

These are new & revised Plates looking at the early 1808-1830 Period Uniforms:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 15 Jan 2013 17:32

New next set in the Plate 1 series, covers uniform development in Egypt - with the 1800 -1830 era these developed from Ottoman uniforms:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 15 Jan 2013 17:35

Again showing early Egypt (c 1830), and finally Tunisian with the in the 1830/40s were evolving from Ottoman models:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 16 Jan 2013 13:15

This new Plate looks at early 'New/Modern Army' Foot and Garrison Artillery, and the great Gun of Selim III taken as a prize. This is a Turkish bronze cannon cast 1790-91 in the reign of Ottoman Sultan Selim III, it weighs 5.2 tonnes and fired stone shot of over 56 kilos. It was captured by Admiral Sir John Duckworth from Kinali Island in the Sea of Marmara in 1807 and presented to the Royal Naval Asylum by the Duke of Cumberland. A gun this size, while imposing had a very poor performance (with a low range), compared to the Royal Navy ordinance, used at the time.
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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 16 Jan 2013 15:18

The first, and more officers etc, prior to 1828/32:

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby patates » 16 Jan 2013 18:30

ukturkcollector wrote: the Kurdish irregular (which in the Nicolle's illustration wears a grey Army coat, however typically the issue greatcoat was field brown, and the outdated earlier pattern (1876-1908), was dark blue - which is the version I have chosen for this figure)..


But i am not sure about greatcoat being field brown.

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Re: Draft Book on Ottoman Uniforms 1800 till 1918

Postby ukturkcollector » 16 Jan 2013 21:23

patates wrote:
ukturkcollector wrote: the Kurdish irregular (which in the Nicolle's illustration wears a grey Army coat, however typically the issue greatcoat was field brown, and the outdated earlier pattern (1876-1908), was dark blue - which is the version I have chosen for this figure)..


But i am not sure about greatcoat being field brown.


The 1911 Italian manual shows the grey pattern, that was used along side blue greatcoats from 1876. However, the more normal wartime issue cloth was grey/brown, to light brown. See below examples.


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