A rare photo of Mustafa Kemal in WW1

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Post by Borys » 31 Oct 2008, 10:02

Tosun Saral wrote:Dear YM,
1-He got the surname "Atatürk" according to the new social and civil reforms of the Turkish Republic in June 21st 1934 with the law Nr. 25 25. Until that time Turks had no surnames like all moslems. That coused mostly great misunderstandings and confusion. Every Turk had his fathers name as surmane. e.g. My name is Tosun. My fathers is Ahmet. Therefore I had to use Tosun Ahmet as name. Silly isnt it?
No, not silly.
I am sure the Icelanders still use this system (guess the first name of Olafur Grimsson's father ... ), and I suspect the Bulgars and Danes also. The Russian system is mixed, with BOTH father's name and fixed surname.

As to blue-eyed and blond Turks - I haven't seen any yet. But my experience is limited.
But I'd say that 75% of the dark haired Turks running kebab stands in Warsaw are pale skinned enough as to pass as Polish if they wanted to.

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Re: A rare photo of Mustafa Kemal in WW1

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Post by glaswegian » 31 Oct 2008, 12:37

in ane of the history buiks i hae read concerning the turkish race, the kuman turks,wha lived in central europe during the ottoman period are often described as blue eyed and blonde

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Re: A rare photo of Mustafa Kemal in WW1

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Post by emir pasha » 01 Nov 2008, 02:32

gumbirsingpun wrote:in ane of the history buiks i hae read concerning the turkish race, the kuman turks,wha lived in central europe during the ottoman period are often described as blue eyed and blonde

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rus people named kumans as "polovets" which means blonde. This alone speaks itself enough.

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Re: A rare photo of Mustafa Kemal in WW1

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Post by Tosun Saral » 04 Dec 2008, 21:55

Mustafa Kemal in 1911 at Balkans
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Re: A rare photo of Mustafa Kemal in WW1

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Post by Tosun Saral » 26 Oct 2013, 16:40

I found the original photo published in Agemeine Automobile Zeitung, Wien 25.11.1918
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