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by **Clippedeagle** on 24 Jul 2006 06:30

Hi great site
Im currently painting the capture of Regimental standard the 46th Turkish Infantry Regiment captured near Damascus, 1918 By MAJ Daly 9 LHR.
Im after uniform detail of the Turkish Army 1917-1918, such as Officers Rank badges, hat, types of swords ect.

I have also just finished a painting of 'Bolton 4LHR a Beersheba' so if any one would like too comment on the accuraccy or inaccuraccy please feel free.

by **Clippedeagle** on 24 Jul 2006 06:36

I am also keen on commission work so if anyone needs an Military Artists (thats a cheap artist) let me know.
Brush

by **Tosun Saral** on 24 Jul 2006 08:34

Dear Brush, You may find detailed information in my article about a Turkish painter reserve Lt. Hayri Cizer who served in the Gallipoli wars. His painting are in colour.
viewtopic.php?t=89927&highlight=cizer

by **stevebecker** on 24 Jul 2006 08:53

Mate,

I am no expert but that looks like a British Aircraft above their heads.

I have no reports of any British/aussie aircraft over Beersheba that day by LH soldiers even if they did indeed fly them.

The closness of German /Turkish airfields allowed them to fly many sorties that day and gave us much trouble and many losses.

This airplane should be a German plane (called taube by LH) which bombed the charge and DMC HQ during that afternoon.

Cheers

S.B

by **Clippedeagle** on 24 Jul 2006 16:23

Thanks Steve but being ex-Recon I a shamed you missed the cross on it and tail section or maybe the down load is to small and yes it a German Rumbler with the two front panels removed. Some times to much historical accuracy is a bad thing. I was hoping you would comment on the Luger? (he he)

As for no British planes at Beersheba AMW P01184.023 Weli Sheikh Nuran, Palestine. 8 October 1917. A German Air Force DIII Albatros Scout aircraft, D636/17, flown by Oberleutenant Dittman of Fliegerabteilung 300 unit. The aircraft had been shot down, practically intact, into AIF Light Horse lines near Bersheeba by a Bristol fighter aircraft flown by Lieutenant R. Steele a Canadian pilot with No 111 Squadron, Royal Flying Corps. No 1 Squadron, Australian Flying Corps, members recovered the machine and moved it to their airfield where repairs, including a bullet holed radiator, were carried out returning it to flying condition.

by **Clippedeagle** on 24 Jul 2006 16:26

Thank Tosun Sara great painting but not much info as per ranks and head dress.
cheers

by **stevebecker** on 25 Jul 2006 07:30

Clipper,

Agreed. these Allied Sqn's did operate that day 31st Oct 1917 over Beersheba but they played little in the over all battle as no account mentions them on the day in question.

While German aircraft came over in a large numbers operating many of sorties which bombed our men and disrutpted the supply coloums inflicting many losses.

The British/Aussie Sqns had to fly from airfields near the coast while German sqn's were closer to Beersheba.

Sorry I didn't enlarge the photo so missed the details you mentioned on the aircraft, it looked like a Tiger moth not a German Rambler you mentioned.

My old eyes have no longer got the sharpness of my Recon Cav days.

Cheers

S.B

by **Peter H** on 25 Jul 2006 10:14

Our esteemed member Tosun has posted many photos of Turkish officers.If you do a search under his member name these can be easily found.

Here's one topic for example:

viewtopic.php?t=101417

Some good photos of the Ottoman Army pre 1914 can be found here as well:

http://www.geh.org/ar/chus/turkey/chuss ... :0111:5048

Infantry officers with swords:

http://www.geh.org/ar/strip07/m197501115335.jpg

http://www.geh.org/ar/strip07/m197501115334.jpg

by **Tosun Saral** on 26 Jul 2006 10:16

Dear Peter I am just a humble Derwisch of Gul Baba trying to be helpful.

For Clippedeage: uniform of Huseyin Avni Bey in colour:
viewtopic.php?t=94618&highlight=huseyin+avni

by **Clippedeagle** on 26 Jul 2006 12:51

Great work thank you all very much, Steve (C/S 23B?) the plane gets a nose job, Tosun Saral a gold star thank you. Next question did a Lieutenant carry the colours? And if was is his rank a silver star?
Tosun Saral Whats a Derwisch?
You dont know who this is do you steve

by **stevebecker** on 26 Jul 2006 23:24

Clipper,

Mate no idea but we must have served with 2 Cav at some time, I was C/S 22B most of my time in B Sqn.

Cheers

S.B

by **Tosun Saral** on 27 Jul 2006 08:33

Dear Clipper, A dervish is a member of sufi order. In India they are fakirs. Here is a information for you about a very important Turkish sufi Order which I am not a member.
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/7d696/1bf4f2/
I attach fhotos of Turkish officers of WW!

an officer in field gray from the Medina Forces in Hicaz.

by **Tosun Saral** on 27 Jul 2006 08:36

a 2nd Lt. with a silver star.

by **Tosun Saral** on 27 Jul 2006 08:39

a First Lt. without a star. His name is Ismail Sefa Semenderoglu.

by **Tosun Saral** on 27 Jul 2006 08:43

Some officers in Palastina Front.

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