Identifying Turkish engineer units

[Tosun Saral]

Source: Türk Silahlı Kuvvetleri General ve Amiraller Albümü 1923-1991 ( Photo Album of Generals and Admirals of Turkish Armed Forces 1923-1991)

Orgeneral(General of the Army) İbrahim Fevzi Menğüç (pix)
10th Chief of Staff of The Turkish Armed Forces during the years 11.10.1957-22.8.1958
Army serial number: İs (Engineer) 1330(1914)-c-39
according to his army serial number the class of 1914 had 3 (a,b,c) engineer graduants groups.
Brigadier:1939, maj. gen.:1941, Lt. Gen.:1947, Gen.:1953
Retired: 15.12.1959
b.Istanbul 1896-d.Istanbul, June 12nd 1966

Graduated from Harbiye the War School in 1914 as an engineer under Lt. He fought the WW1 until 1919 at the verious engineer companies and at the Army's Department of Road Building

Now other engineer officers who promoted to the rank of general in Turkish armed forces that fought the WW1:

Şükrü (family name unknown)
İs.1310(1894) 2
Brigadier: 1927
retired:22.2.1930

Mehmet Sıtkı Üke
İs.1314(1898)-P-505
Maj. Gen.:1927
retired:16.4.1935
According to his army serial number he graduated from war school as an infantry officer 505th of his infantry class. He then joined the engineers.

Kadri Demirkaya
İs.-1318(1902)-1
Maj. Gen.: 1927
Retired:30.9.1931

Kemalettin Sami Gökçen
İs.1321(1905)-1
Maj. Gen. 1922, Lt. gen.:1926
Retired:24.9.1928

Haydar Günkut
İs.1327(1911)-12
Retired:10.10.1949
Brigadier: 1947

Kamil Erigür
İs-1328(1912)-
Brigadier: 1947
Retired:3.9.1951

İhsan Eriş
İs.1330(1914)c-34 [34th of this group c]
Brigadier:1945, Maj. Gen.:1947, Lt. Gen:1952
Retired14.7.1954

Celalettin Sorgunç
İs 1330(1914)b-39 [39th of his group b]
B.:1944, Maj. gen.:1946
R:30.9.1950

M.Şevki Altunay
İs 1330(1914)-c-51 [51st of his group c]
B: 1945, MG:1948
R:20.6.1950

Sait Balioğlu
İs1330(1914(-c-13
B:1942
R:7.11.1945

N. Fevzi Talimcioğlu
İs 1330(1914(-b.33
B;1947
R:3.9.1951

Hilmi Akkaşoğlu
İs 1330(1914) c.53
B:1948
R:3.9.1951

İhsdan Beşergil
İs 1331(1915)-64
B:1953, MG:1957
R:14.7.1958

Ali Rıza Çal
İs. 1331(1915)-1
B: 1947
R:14.7.1956

Hüsnü Özkın
İs 1332(1916)-9
B: 1955, MG:1958
R:14.7.1960

Abdülbaki Özgüler
İs 1332(1916)-11
B:1955, MG:1958
R:14.7.1959

Kemalettin Süler
İs 1333 (1917)-6
B: 1955, MG:1958
R:14.7.1960

Refik Aslan
İs 1333(1917)-1
B:1955, MG: 1958
R:14.7.1960

Ragıp Turgay
İs 1333(1917)-5
B:1957
R:14.7.1960

[Tosun Saral]

Staff Engeneer Major Kadri Bey CoS of 1st Expeditory Forces attacked to Kanal in 1915

Kadri Demirkaya
İs.-1318(1902)-1
Maj. Gen.: 1927
Retired:30.9.1931

[stevebecker]

Tosun,

Other Engineer Officers I have;

Ibrahim Fevzi (Mengüç) 5th Div Eng Co 1915 & 5th Eng Bn - 5th Caucasus Div Lt Eng

Ibrahim Halil 3rd Pioneers Co (6th Div) Capt Eng

Sayed Efendi 4Co 2nd Engineer Bn Lt Eng

Yusuf Kenan Bey Pilot airforce Lt Engineer sent to Bleriot Flight School in France to be trained as pilot 1911

Ziya Bey Chief of Engineers - 3rd Corps Maj

Cheers

S.B

[stevebecker]

Mates,

Tosun has given this but needs to be placed here;

1914 - 10x Bns (Engineers) each 4xCo's att Army Corps 1st Army, 2nd Army and 3rd Army 5x indpentant Co's with 7th Corps 12th Corps & 13th Corps each Corps had one Bn Engineers and Telegraph Co

As the war went on more Engineer troops were formed with many veriations, like they were called Sappers or Pioneer Troops and Constrution Troops.

Also formed were;

14x Pontoon Sects of which 9x Sects around Adrianople

2x Bn Railwy Eng in Syria for the Hejaz and Anatolian Railway lines 2x Bns at Istamboul

Some reports give the 4th and 8th Engineer Bn's as Pontoon Troops during the two invasions of Egypt in 1915 and 1916

The Engineer depot was the Engineer depot Regt at Haskoy Turkey, but I am unsure if others were formed?

The 20th Corps is shown with these Troops

shown June 1917 Allied reports - 20th Corps Eng Co (150 men) & 2xCo's 17th Eng Bn (300 men)

shown Dec 1917 Allied reports Telephone (Sig) Co (82 men) 20th Corps Engineer Co (178 men) -

shown July 1918 Allied reports 5Co/7th Pnr Bn 16th Pnr Bn 20th telegraph Bn 166th & 167th MT Columns

Confusing Yes.

S.B