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Rauof Bey

Postby stevebecker on 28 Oct 2011 00:44

Mates,

Can you give any details on this?

"OK, in the 'World War in Iraq', by Sir Claremont Skrine, Constable, London, 1962, p. xix - but not much!

In 1914:

"A Turkish column under a swashbuckling general called Rauof Bey marched up the Kermanshah road from Baghdad, raping and pillaging. To counter this threat to their zone [i,e, the Russian zone within north Persia] the Tsar's government sent a military force across the Caucasian frontier, and the two enemies began a confused campaign which was to sway backwards and forwards across strategic Ajerbaijan, Gilan and Kurdistan for the next two years"

That's all, I'm afraid. But if you can find more on the "swashbuckling general called Rauof Bey" you might find more.

Trajan "

Who is "Rauof Bey" ?

Could he be;

35th Division Rezzak Bey or

38th Division Rushdi Bey

S.B

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Re: Rauof Bey

Postby Tosun Saral on 30 Oct 2011 13:57

He is Navy Captain Hüseyin Rauf Orbay
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rauf_Orbay

As Navy Major Hüseyin Rauf Bey returned from England (He sailed there to take over the two battleships build for Turkish navy in British docks) Enver Pasha wanted him to organize the detachment in August 1914 (Rauf Bey Müfrezesi). Without any success the detachment was demolished in Sept 1915.

http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/19/835/10573.pdf

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ra ... a=N&tab=iw

I PROTEST the words of "raping and pillaging" This is clean British anti turk propaganda of that time.

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Re: Rauof Bey

Postby Osman Levent on 31 Oct 2011 00:41

Steve,
My imaginary hat to Sir Claremont Skrine. He has 20 Turks (No, I did not make a mistake; twenty odd souls according to the annals of the Teşkîlât ı Mahsûsa, the Ottoman Special Branch) "marching up" into Iran, bent on a mission of rape and pillage. They must have been so formidable that even the Russians had to send a "Military Force" all the way from Caucasia to stop these crazy warmongers. Wow ! I must confess that even Rambo the Magnificent in his Hollywood heyday could not match this sort of far out imagination.
As a bit of information, I must add that Rauf Orbay was the first Prime Minister of the young Turkish Republic. In later years he was to serve as the Speaker of the House and the Turkish Ambassador to London.

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Re: Rauof Bey

Postby stevebecker on 03 Nov 2011 09:09

Mates,

Yes I would agree

"raping and pillaging" This is clean British anti turk propaganda of that time".

Not uncomen for both sides to use such words.

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