Rifat Bey

[stevebecker]

Mates,

I was woundering if you have any details on how many senior officers were named Rifat Bey during the war?

I have a number of men so named that maybe the same or different men?

6th Regt - Maj Rifat Bey (commander) in 2 Div date unknown?

14th Regt - LtCol Ali Rifat (commander) in 5th Div date 1914 untill Maj Ismail Hakki (Oktürk) took command

43rd Regt - LtCol Rifat Bey (commander) in 14th Div date unknown?

120th Regt- LtCol Rifat Bey (commander) in 40th Div date unknown?

133rd Regt- Maj Rifat Bey (commander) in 41st Div date unknown?

In his book Erickson talks about a Maj Rifat who commanded the Heavy Artillery Group at Helles during the fighting in August 1915 but I could find no officer so named in the Artillery, can you find who he maybe?

Any ideas on who these officers are and when they served.

S.B

[Tosun Saral]

Very hard to identify. Because before Turkish republic nobody had famili names.
Görgülü gives the following names at p.62 on the day of March 18th 1915
Ağır Topçu Yüzbaşı (Heavy Artillery Capt) Rıfat : C of 1st Battalion of 8th Heavy Artillery Regiment (C LtCol Mehmet Zekeriya) at Erenköy under C of german LtCol Werle.
Other batt Cs:
2nd Batt. Capt Mehmet Halit,
3rd muster Heavy Art Batt. Capt Ali Tevfik
4th siege Artillery Batt. C: Capt. Hasbi

[Tosun Saral]

Görgülü p. 77
During Turkish attack at Zığındere on July 5th 1915
Front Artillery under command of german LtCol Binholt
artillery C Major Rifat (TS's note: The book gives the names in same pages Rıfat in some Rifat with (ı) and (i) It is a Turkish mouth art to say Rifat or Rıfat.

[Tosun Saral]

Görgülü p.80
During August 6-13 1915 battles
Artillery Commander of South Group Major Rıfat
Görgülü gives on the same page in a deep note that Major Necip Bey was commanding the 13rd Artillery regiment of 13rd Div.

[Tosun Saral]

Görgülü p.82
Sept 1915- Jan 9th 1916 frontal battles
Inf. Maj. Rıfat C of 56th Inf R. of 15th Div.

[Tosun Saral]

Görgülü p. 72 & 87
June 21-22 1915 1st Kerevizdere battle
Inf Maj. Rifat C of 6th Inf R of the 2nd Div.

Görgülü p. 87
Lt Col Ali Rıfat C of 14td Inf R. of the 5th Div.
Inf Maj. Rifat C of 6th Inf R of the 2nd Div.
T's Note: both persons are not the same person.

[stevebecker]

Tosun, my friend,

Many thanks again for checking for me.

And for finding who Maj Rifat in the Arty is.

Nice to confirm names to units.

Cheers

S.B