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Post by stevebecker » 04 Mar 2016, 02:15

Tosun,

You show this officer in a discussion but I am unsure who he is?

A. Vevik (Yazgan) Brig Gen 1927 Retired :23.6.1932

could he be one of these?

Mehmet Emin (Yazgan) or Muhammad Amin 16th Regt - 9-15 & Inspector of the Depot Forces 6th Army & 109th Caucasus Regt 1918 Maj to LtCol (1876 - 1961) 1311-P. Infantry 88 graduated 1895 Greco-Turkish War & Italo-Turkish War & Balkan Wars to Maj 1911 to LtCol 1916 & War of Independance 7th Div to 18th Div to Col 1921 to Brig Gen 1927 Retired:8.10.1931

Mehmet Sevki (Yazman) 63rd Regt 2Bn 8Co Lt (Elazig 1896-Istanbul 1974) War of Independance to Col retired from the army in 1946 became a MP of Demokrat Party in 1950

I have others you have shown that need more details like

A. Galip (Türker) 1321. P- 13 to Maj Gen 1930 to Lt Gen 1936 retired 1941

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Post by Tosun Saral » 06 Mar 2016, 11:53

A. Vefik Yazgan (A. must be Ahmet not Ali. Because Ahmet Vefik is a common name but Ali Vefik is not)
Veterinary 1311(1895)-c-3
Brigadier: 1927
Retired: 23.6.1932


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Post by Tosun Saral » 06 Mar 2016, 12:10

Brigadier Mehmet Emin (Yazgan) Muhammad Amin is the way that arabs or British say. We Turks prefer to say Mehmet Emin.
P.(Inf.) 1311 (1895)-b-88
Brigadier: 1927
Retired:8.10.1931

Maj. Mehmet Emin Bey C of 16th IR, 4th Div, 2nd AC of Çatalca Army during Balkan War in Nov.17-20 1912 at 1st Çatalca Battle
Maj. Mehmet Emin Bey C of 16th IR, 6th Div., 15th AC of Anafartalar Group Command (Suvla)
Lt.Col. Mehmet Emin Bey, C of 6th Div. after Col. Nazif (MajGen. Kayacık)
Thats all what I know about him

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Post by Tosun Saral » 06 Mar 2016, 12:17

Mehmet Sevki (Yazman) 63rd Regt 2Bn 8Co Lt (Elazig 1896-Istanbul 1974) War of Independance to Col retired from the army in 1946 became a MP of Demokrat Party in 1950
Author of famous book about 15th AC at Galizia Front: " Mehmetcik Avrupa'da" ( Our Mehmets in Europa)
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... lit=Yazman

http://forum.axishistory.com/search.php ... r_id=16361

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Post by stevebecker » 08 Mar 2016, 00:54

Tosun,

Thank you

I have others from lists you gave before. but I have found no details as yet, Do you have their histories or at lest what they did in the Great War and maybe the War of Inderpendece.

Do you know who these are;

A. Galip (Türker) 1321. P- 13 to Maj Gen 1930 to Lt Gen 1936 retired 1941

A. Kazim (Kivilcim) Maj Gen 1924 Retired 28.9.1931

A.Hakki (Özgener) P.1319-278 graduated class 1903 Brigadier 1937, Maj Gen 1938 R:21.4.1941

other to follow

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Post by Tosun Saral » 23 Mar 2016, 15:40

LtGen.Galip Türker
Staff Capt.Galip CoS of 8th Div , 3rd AC, Eastern Army in 1912
" " " " " " " " Çatalça army ,n Nov. 1912
" " " " " ", 14th AC at Gallipoli. (8th Div. come to the front on after July 21st took part on August 6/13 battles as Major Galip Bey)
Staff Maj. Galip Bey C of 24th IR, 8th Div.
Maj. Galip Bey CoS of 2nd AC during the battles around River Murat at East.
Staff Maj. Galip Bey CoS of 20th AC just before and during Nablus.
Staff Lt.Col. Galip Bey C of 13rd Div. During Turkish War of Independance

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Post by stevebecker » 24 Mar 2016, 02:47

Tosun,

Thank you, I did notice that others shown;

Ali Galip Bey CofS 8th Div Maj (at Helles 1915) Erickson
Galip Bey CofS 22nd Corps 1-18 to 10-18 Maj

I showed these details, so the details you gave fill in some blanks;

Ali Galip Bey (Türker) CofS 8th Div 1914/15 to 24th Regt 9-15

Ali Galip replaced Mehmet Nuri (Conker) in the 24th Regt when he was made commander 8th Div Sept 1915

Could there be a mistake when you write, Staff Maj. Galip Bey CoS of 20th AC just before and during Nablus?

As I show him as CofS 22nd Corps between Jan 1918 and Oct 1918, where he was possibly captured around Damascus in Oct 1918

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Post by stevebecker » 02 Apr 2016, 00:05

Tosun,

Can you give any more details on these three officers named Ismail Hakki during the war?

Ismail Hakki (Emiroglu) unknown unknown Maj Gen 1929 R:8.9.1930

Ismail Hakki (Ülker) unknown unknown graduated class 1903 Brigadier:1938 R:9.3.1944

Ismail Hakki (Alpay) unknown unknown 1321.P-545 to Brig 1940 retired 1942


Known officers named Ismail Hakki on my records?

Ismail Hakki (Akoguz) staff 3rd Army 1914 Capt 1321 P-94 to Brig 1937 to Maj Gen 1938 to Lt Gen 1942 to Gen 1947 retired 1950
Ismail Hakki (Berkuk) or (Berkok) CofS 1st Expeditionary Force 1914/15 & Staff Maj 20th Div 10-16 & CofS Caucasus Army Group 1918 Capt to Maj to LtCol
Ismail Hakki (Okday) ADC to Halil Pasa 6th Army & Ops officer 8th Army 1917-18 Capt
Ismail Hakki (Oktürk) 14th Regt Maj KIA 10-8-15 at Suvla or KIA 28-8-15 KIA 10-8-15 at Suvla or KIA 28-8-15
Ismail Hakki (Sunata) 35th Regt - 1Bn - 2Co or 2Bn - 8Co (12th Div) Lt Ismail Hakki Sunata's memoir "Geliboludan Kafkaslara" published by Is Bankasi yayinlari
Ismail Hakki (Tumerdem) 27th Regt 2Bn 7Co 3plat Lt
Ismail Hakki Bey 45th Div LtCol WIA 24-2-17 He was kicked by a horse and wounded 0n Feb 24/25 1917
Ismail Hakki Bey 9th Cav Regt LtCol
Ismail Hakki Bey pilot Airforce Lt crashed 1914 before war mental disch
Ismail Hakki Bey staff officer Yeman Corps LtCol
Ismail Hakki Bey CofS 7th Div 1916 & 1918 Maj shown Sept 1918 Allied reports
Ismail Hakki Bey (Koray) 31st Regt Maj to LtCol WIA 4-6-15 WIA 4-6-15 at 3rd Crithea Battle to 2nd Canal expedition
Ismail Hakki Bey (Vilidecesmeli) or (Valideçesmeli) 7th Regt & deputy 51st Div & deputy 14th Div 1916 & 14th Div 7-17 to 1918 Maj to LtCol (1883 - 1923) 1317-P. 59 Italo-Turkish War & Balkan Wars to Maj 1913 to LtCol 1916 PoW 30-10-18 & War of Independence 11th Cauc Div to Col 1921 son of Mustafa Zihni Pasha
Ismail Hakki Efendi Commander of Region North at Taif Capt Hicaz

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Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Feb 2017, 18:19

Majorgeneral Ismail Hakki (Emiroglu) : P.1311 (1895)- b-33
retired: 8.9.1930
Majgen: 1929

Brigadier Ismail Hakki (Ülker) Top (Artt) 1319(1903)- 5
Retired: 9.3.1944
Brigadier : 1938

Brigadier Ismail Hakki (Alpay : P.1321 (1905)-545
Retired: 14.7.1942
Bri: 1940

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Post by Tosun Saral » 05 Feb 2017, 18:47

Majorgeneral Ismail Hakki (Emiroglu) : P.1311 (1895)- b-33
retired: 8.9.1930
Majgen: 1929

NOT İSMAİL HAKKI BUT İBRAHİM HAKKI EMİROĞLU
mAJOR iBRAHİM HAKKI (EMİROĞLU) BEY C of Left wing of 9th Div. during 3rd Kirte Battle wounded on June 4th 1915 replaced by Maj. Kazım Bey (?) C of 3th R.
Görgülü wrongly gives his name as İsmail Hakkı.
born in 1874 at Çemişgezek During war of Liberation served as C of 57th Brigade as Col.

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Post by stevebecker » 06 Feb 2017, 01:55

Tosun,

Many thanks again.

(ibrahim) Hakki (Emiroglu) Left Wing Southern Group at helles 1915 Maj - LtCol WIA 4-6-15 at 3rd Kirte Battle born in 1874 at Çemisgezek - P.1311 (1895)- b-33 WIA 4-6-15 at 3rd Crithea Battle During war of Liberation served as C of 57th Brigade as Col to Maj Gen 1929 R:8.9.1930

What was is job during Gallipoli - was he on staff 15th Corps under Webber?

Do you know what he did after Gallipoli 1915 and during the war?

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Post by Tosun Saral » 06 Feb 2017, 15:42

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